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BabyBear
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I have candy!

Why does this seem like the digital equivalent to a creepy guy in a van offering candy to kids on the street?


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said by BabyBear See Profile :

Why does this seem like the digital equivalent to a creepy guy in a van offering candy to kids on the street?
Hmmm.....technology to speed up transfers, spearheaded by the same company that spearheaded the transition to metered billing for your bandwidth. Yeah, I'd have to agree with the creepy guy with candy analogy.
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This article says they used trackers on their own servers... so does that mean that it will only work for torrents that are tracked by X ISP's servers??? Sounds like a scam or a bait/switch plan to me.
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said by jimbo2150 See Profile :

This article says they used trackers on their own servers... so does that mean that it will only work for torrents that are tracked by X ISP's servers??? Sounds like a scam or a bait/switch plan to me.
The details are still not worked out, but it doesn't have to be that restricted to work, and if it was that restricted, then nobody would use it and the idea would be dead on arrival.

For BitTorrent, a tracker only tracks hashes and IP addresses, so it would be somewhat blind to what was being shared but doing a search-engine search for most BitTorrent infohashes usually yields in clues as to what the content is. It won't be private enough for some.

It would certainly work for folks that trade in the old, rare, free, and other stuff that studios and publishers don't care anything about.
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I think the P4P technology on the ISP side only tracks IP addresses and not hashes (derived from this statement "the iTracker makes available only network topology information").
You would still need to contact the 3rd party tracker to get hashes and IPs for clients with the files, but then, with the P4P tech you can compare the P2P tracker lists with the P4P tracker lists to see if there are any intersections of the IP addresses.
Basically intersect the list of who has the file with the list of who is located near you. If there are hits, then you use those IP addresses first. If not then broaden your P4P list to people who are slightly farther away.

If you implement it this way, by using a file tracker and a topology tracker, ISP's can optomise P2P traffic without having to worry about being liable as a file tracker. They aren't tracking files, just topology. The client would use the topology information to optimize their connection choices, but not be reliant on the ISP to find other P2P clients.


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That's possibly the way that the P4P WG has skinned that cat -- thanks for clearing it up.
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