blips
join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL | reply to lkrupp
Re: Bandwidth caps are a com'in That is great and all and I will vote with my feet. But the reality probably is that probably 90%, or more, of DSL users will not even notice. Caps will probably not hurt their bottom line therefore, they are here to stay. |
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 kcazzieOne Of Jerry's KidsPremium
join:2000-08-13
Morton Grove, IL
1 edit | said by blips:That is great and all and I will vote with my feet. But the reality probably is that probably 90%, or more, of DSL users will not even notice. Caps will probably not hurt their bottom line therefore, they are here to stay. That's exactly what I was saying in the 'Tool' thread,,, "Most ppl just E, surf and use the word processor and these new cap rules well never affect them... We on the other hand use our PCs/Macs much differently and there is NO way we'll be able to stay under these caps..." |
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1 edit | Well i'm already changing my ways a little bit--even though caps not in Michigan yet, i'm on Elite Package, and even with Normal stuff i do at the moment--for this week alone been around 34gbs. Here is some of the stuff i do currently
Online Free Backups to Mozy-1-2gbs at a time, along with some uploads to Windows Live Sky Drive
Hulu video watching, including some HD Content
Game Patch Downloads/Windows Vista/XP updates for 6 PC's, along with other program updates
Online Gaming
Streaming Radio from launchcast, xm online, local station etc
and Secondlife 3D game, with music and video all day, when i tried at&t yahoo mcafee progam, Secondlife used the most bandwidth on mine, but i enjoy that program, so i guess will figure out a way to still use it even after the caps are in Michigan
If i can't stay under the caps, and bills get too high, i guess i'll have no choice but to cancel and switch providers after about 4-5 years
Left out also our Dish Network Dish On Demand Rentals/Movie Downloads at times, glad i didn't get at&t dishnetwork Homezone recevier, with these caps, i'd never be able to use it now anyways |
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kcazzieOne Of Jerry's KidsPremium
join:2000-08-13
Morton Grove, IL
1 edit | said by computerman2 
If i can't stay under the caps, and bills get too high, i guess i'll have no choice but to cancel and switch providers after about 4-5 years
[/BQUOTE :Most ppl here at the 'Funhouse' (ATT thread) will be right with ya...  ... No way will I be able to say under the cap and they, ATT, don't really give two sh*ts about us... Edit; Know what else is pissing me off... We were the ones that had ppl change to DSL becuase we knew how to help and told our friends that don't really use their PCs like us that DSL now was cheaper then dial up and the benefits... We were there best sales ppl... |
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 cookeysPremium,MVM
join:2001-06-10
Orland Park, IL
1 edit | reply to kcazzie
said by kcazzie:said by blips:That is great and all and I will vote with my feet. But the reality probably is that probably 90%, or more, of DSL users will not even notice. Caps will probably not hurt their bottom line therefore, they are here to stay. That's exactly what I was saying in the 'Tool' thread,,, "Most ppl just E, surf and use the word processor and these new cap rules well never affect them... We on the other hand use our PCs/Macs much differently and there is NO way we'll be able to stay under these caps..." I wonder if they will come out with capped and uncapped versions of the service, with the uncapped costing more of course. It would probably be better for them, because they'll be able to sell it, even to people that don't need it. It would allow them to increase prices across the board. |
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 levI think there is a target on my backPremium,Ex-mod 2002-08
join:2001-05-30
Chicago, IL
kudos:2
·AT&T Midwest
| No. The more people use their connections, the more AT&T wants to be able to meter them.
Photo sharing sites, VoIP, movie downloads from Blockbuster, Amazon, AppleTV, DirecTV on Demand, and YouTube are just a few of the things people are using more of, and will use more of in the future.
Just like Bell/AT&T companies got rid of unlimited local calling years back, now they're trying the same philosophy. The whole industry is doing it, but AT&T is squeezing harder.
If they don't stop, my guess is, in a year, 25-50% of us will be on a different ISP. |
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kcazzieOne Of Jerry's KidsPremium
join:2000-08-13
Morton Grove, IL | said by lev:If they don't stop, my guess is, in a year, 25-50% of us will be on a different ISP. So true, and they won't even miss us...
And what's so sad is we most likely brought at least 10 users to A'Tech/SBC/Yahoo/ATT... I know at least 10 AOL dial-up friends that made the more to DSL ... Then again it took another year for them to stop paying that extra 10 bucks to keep AOL... Lev must have brought at least 1k to SBC/ATT if not more ... |
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I will seriously consider voting with my feet, too!
How can I expect ATT/SBC/Ameritech to be able to gauge bandwidth correctly?
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They implement this in Michigan and I am gone.
I like to do stuff online and am online more then 1 hour a day. Plus the streaming anime radio station I listen to whenever I am at my computer. |
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| said by SDAnimeFan:They implement this in Michigan and I am gone. I like to do stuff online and am online more then 1 hour a day. Plus the streaming anime radio station I listen to whenever I am at my computer. I expect that few not serving up TunzWarzPr0n or regularly downloading movies or TV shows would hit the caps for the higher speed levels. Those with the slowest plans would seem to have more to worry about. »The new TOOL...!... talks about a free utility to find out how much bandwidth you are using on a single computer.
It does seem to me that a method where you would carry maybe half of your limit forward would be better for people who might do some heavy downloading irregularly. The other thing that would be less scary for people who have no idea how much bandwidth they use, would be an option for the for the bitrate to be throttled down rather than looking at the potential for big bills. |
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 DudeWhat Happens When I Do ThisPremium
join:2000-11-20
Chicago, IL | reply to lkrupp
Anyone have corprate email contact info so we can voice our disapproval of the caps?
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And what do you think voicing your disapproval will do? AT&T is a profit making company and their sole purpose is to make money for their investors. The internet is changing and All ISP's will change with it. It boils down to everyone in the future will be paying for their usage. Cable has been doing it for years, it just isn't publicised. |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:4 Reviews:
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said by StillLearn:I expect that few not serving up TunzWarzPr0n or regularly downloading movies or TV shows would hit the caps for the higher speed levels. Those with the slowest plans would seem to have more to worry about. Which reinforces my perception that this is more about getting more money from the subs than easing congestion.
OTOH, if I have to adjust my usage downward to stay under the caps, paying more is not an option; only paying less. I'd just stop using the Internet for anything that requires HSI. Go back to dial-up? For $9.95 a month, sure would.
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AT&T Pro Up-to 3.0 Mbps 60 GB per month
way too low
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said by lev:If they don't stop, my guess is, in a year, 25-50% of us will be on a different ISP. But what are the real options for most of us?
Cable is not as attractive for many reasons and has or will have caps as well. Anyone else is a reseller and will be forced to put in caps. What options are there?
I would love to hear some viable option so that I too can vote with my feet, but I'm not aware of anything.
Heck, five years ago, I was on dial-up, after finally dropping an overpriced ISDN. |
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blips
join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL | said by DyerUser:said by lev:If they don't stop, my guess is, in a year, 25-50% of us will be on a different ISP. But what are the real options for most of us? Cable is not as attractive for many reasons and has or will have caps as well. Anyone else is a reseller and will be forced to put in caps. What options are there? I will go to the one with the highest cap. Even if it is cable. I will then try to cut all my ATT services as much as my wife will let me. Cut our second line scale back our main line. That is the best I can do. |
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| My goal is to drop everything except for a single land line running with the Consumers Basic package(basic line and 30 calls a month) So I will go from giving AT&T $100 a month to around $15 a month. |
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I have Comcast available in my area. I could live with there cap but at&t needs to up theres quite bit if they go threw with this in my area. Maybe to 250GB per month.
Like I said I like to listen to streaming radio online and that could add up. |
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Where did you get those graphs? Which program is it? It looks like DD-WRT, but I only have live bandwidth graphs in DD-WRT, nothing that tracks total usage over time. |
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Caps??? It's a return to the bad old days! I thought metered service was long gone. I've had unlimited internet for over ten years! THIS IS A VERY BAD IDEA!!!
So now they will just shut off your internet before the end of the month if they say you use too much? And there is no way for people to measure it! |
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