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Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

Hi,

I have a problem with my toilet not refilling fully bowl with water after flash (about 10% refilled only). If I open tank then I see a lot of water gushing through filler valve during flash and very little coming through overflow tube.

What would be solution for this problem?

Thanks,
G

Here is how it looks like

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

Simplest fix is to replace the whole fill valve assembly.

These are pretty cheap, usually around $10
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cowboyro

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Simplest fix is to re-adjust the float to only shut down the valve when it reaches the proper level. Probably it also needs to be tightened to the rod driving the valve.
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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

said by cowboyro See Profile :

Simplest fix is to re-adjust the float to only shut down the valve when it reaches the proper level. Probably it also needs to be tightened to the rod driving the valve.
Tank is filled to fullest, the problem is that water gushing from filler valve is much more then water going out to overflow tube (I compared to other toilets in my house).
boaterbob

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

Is the water coming out of the problem overflow tube the same, or much less, than the other toilet you compare flows with?
artisticcheese

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

If I disconnect filler valve tube going to overflow tube then there is fountain going directly into a tank from filler valve and very tiny amount going out through pipe destined to overflow tube.

cowboyro

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Are you getting a "good flush"? Your problem might be a clogged toilet drain.
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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

said by cowboyro See Profile :

Are you getting a "good flush"? Your problem might be a clogged toilet drain.
Flush is good, just not enough water coming through overflow valve to refill bowl I beleive.

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I've seen this on a new toilet the tubing going from the valve to the overflow tube is very cheap plastic and was kinked, restricting the flow.

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Back to jack b See Profile post, Fluidmaster valve.

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Edit: Nevermind, the video shows the problem clearly.
artisticcheese

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Here is how it looks like

vimeo.com/2179916

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

It appears that the diaphragm or seal under the 4-screw top cap is shot.

The ballcock (fill valve) in the tank is either a HooverLine or a Coast (who furnished them to most all toilet manufacturers for years).

Since one brand won't retrofit into another, try writing down all that is printed on the top cap to see if you can buy a replacement.

An alternative, as others have noted, is to replace the entire ballcock with a Fluidmaster kind. This would eliminate the float rod and ball. Most all home centers as well as hardware stores stock replacement diaphragms for them.

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Like jack b stated install a Fluidmaster valve. The present one is shot.
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cowboyro

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Looks like the flap is closing too early, move the float down a bit...
Oh and wash that toiled bowl...

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

said by cowboyro See Profile :

Oh and wash that toiled bowl...
Glad I'm not the only one on that thought!!!!

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said by artisticcheese See Profile :

Hi,

I have a problem with my toilet not refilling fully bowl with water after flash (about 10% refilled only). If I open tank then I see a lot of water gushing through filler valve during flash and very little coming through overflow tube.

What would be solution for this problem?

Thanks,
G
You better replace the whole assembly like others also suggested before something more serious happens like water overflowing and water damage as result.Like mentioned it's not expensive and use the Fluidmaster if available

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

He should replace the whole toilet! That's SICK looking. Nasty . . .

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said by artisticcheese See Profile :

What would be solution for this problem?
Buy a repair kit and fix the broken diaphragm in the flush valve. Then fix the float level to have the water stop right at the top edge of the overflow tube unless you see the fill line in the upper tank, then use that mark instead.

It is easy to fix and is made to be repaired since it has 4 easy to remove screws instead of rivets right in the top.

Your old flush valve is a better build and is made to outlast you. Don't toss it, repair it.
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Don't get the Home Depot/Lowe's plastic assembly - they're pretty much designed to fail. Spend the extra few bucks and get a brass assembly. It'll outlast the toilet and you won't have to change anything for years. Any plumbing supply store will carry them - just make sure you get the manufacturer of the toilet and model (if accessible). Take off the tank lid and turn it upside down - the information should be there.

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Looks like you have a problem with an explosive bowel movement too.

Goober
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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

Reminds me of that horror movie "Rest Stop."

I've watched this toilet video in horrified fascination at least 4 times.

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

said by Goober See Profile :

Reminds me of that horror movie "Rest Stop."

I've watched this toilet video in horrified fascination at least 4 times.
With all due respect to all of you, that top part of the toilet gets discolored from the iron and other minerals in the water. Yes, occasionally you could shut off the supply valve, flush the toilet and throw some bleach in the tank top to clean out any bacteria but that is clean water in the top tank. The bottom part is simply disgraceful....
Also when the rubber seals wear out, the water could turn black from the seals dissolving.
Normal behavior and appearance.
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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

I don't think anyone's comments were directed at the discoloration inside the top part of the tank...

Goober
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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

Yeah. I think NY Tel missed the appealing portions of the video showing the underside of the seat and the rim of the bowl .

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

said by Goober See Profile :

Yeah. I think NY Tel missed the appealing portions of the video showing the underside of the seat and the rim of the bowl .
lol...I did at first because I have replaced many of these and figured "what's the big deal?", then I looked at the entire thing. One word came to mind when I saw the bottom part of the toilet........

Sunoco

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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

Sunoco my ass! That's Good Gulf if I ever saw one!
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Get one of these!

Out with the OLD and in with new technology that works MUCH better for longer than any of that FluidMaster (I HATE FLUIDMASTER!!!!!) crap or other cheap float-ball type valves. The new diaphragm type valves simply work GREAT! You'll never go back.

I also like how quickly the tank fills with these.
They are much quieter too. Some float-ball designs can shudder or whistle when filling.

Seriously, if you install one, you wont have to fuss with your tank fill valve again for a very long time. I've put in 8 or 10 for friends and family and at different properties, and I've never had to replace or service a single one

Link:

»www.shopwiki.com/detail/?q=fill+···ll+Valve
edit: grammar correction
edit: redundant 'seriouslys'

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I have been using Korky Quiet fills. »www.korky.com/FillValve528.html Oldest one is 5 years no problems.

When they do go bad you just replace a small part of the unit. Cost like 2 or 3 bucks. Cap assembly or something.

Now as far as them being quieter never really noticed but then toilet filling never bothered me.

Barbara Ann
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Re: Help with toilet needed (not enough water in bowl)

I second dcurrey for Korky Quiet Fill.
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