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Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. What is this country coming to. |
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1 edit | said by Singular:Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else.
Well we certainly can't allow you to have more than your neighbor. So it's got to be taken away from you and given to someone that doesn't want to work as hard as you. After all, that is the Democrat way Barack Obama way Socialist way. Of sourse, those three are all one in the same. |
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said by Singular:Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. What is this country coming to. Gee, the current administration just took a Trillion dollars and spread it around to financial dolts to do with as they see fit to "bail us out."
People squeal like pigs when they think some liburul is going to fleece them to finance crack addicts but bend over for bankers and Hedge funds. Unreal.
The hypocrisy is frightening, and I don't know whether it's ideology or ignorance. If you make less than 250K a year under Obama's plan you won't see a penny of money taken from you and spread around. If it turns out he lied it won't be hard to catch. All the man is calling for (so far) is basically a return to Clinton's tax policies.
Back on topic, please. Most people here can't discuss politics rationally.
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said by skrupowies:said by Singular:Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. Well we certainly can't allow you to have more than your neighbor. So it's got to be taken away from you and given to someone that doesn't want to work as hard as you. After all, that is the Democrat way Barack Obama way Socialist way. Of sourse, those three are all one in the same. Yeah its crazy, just the other day I was telling my wife how frustrating low our taxes are! Thankfully I am very patriotic, and so the idea of more taxes really gets me excited. I personally eagerly look forward to paying more taxes, so I for one am glad Oops-bama got elected. The best (and most fun!) part of this is figuring out where to come up with the extra money I will need after my "spread the wealth" payments go up. 
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Camden, TN | reply to skrupowies
said by skrupowies:said by Singular:Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. Well we certainly can't allow you to have more than your neighbor. So it's got to be taken away from you and given to someone that doesn't want to work as hard as you. After all, that is the Democrat way Barack Obama way Socialist way. Of sourse, those three are all one in the same. '
Please do you actually believe the crap you spew are are you just trying to get something started? The Cold War ended 17 years ago. get over yourself there is no commie invasion coming. Talk about tin foil hat club |
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Re: Can't rely on Big Business or Big Government said by Titus Pullo:Gee, the current administration just took a Trillion dollars and spread it around to financial dolts to do with as they see fit to "bail us out." People squeal like pigs when they think some liburul is going to fleece them to finance crack addicts but bend over for bankers and Hedge funds. Unreal. Many conservatives that believe that are not even business owners, just average Joe Plumbers (who may not even be plumbers) who make much less and have little to no hope of ever making millions... yet they still believe that giving big businesses free reign to do as they please and putting all taxpayers money to them in hard times is the best course of action. Got news for you: You may not like government and think it is an amoral and corrupt entity, but big businesses with no oversight are no shining angels either (as much as you want to think that).
said by Titus Pullo:The hypocrisy is frightening, and I don't know whether it's ideology or ignorance. If you make less than 250K a year under Obama's plan you won't see a penny of money taken from you and spread around. If it turns out he lied it won't be hard to catch. All the man is calling for (so far) is basically a return to Clinton's tax policies. And under McCain's plan most of them would get a very minimal tax cut while big businesses got huge ones. They would have had spending freezes on everything except military, potentially hurting everything from education and research to infrastructure and emergency protection. Businesses would be getting more "free market" (eg. letting businesses do as they please and expecting them to never use corrupt practices) potentially bringing about a second "housing" collapse in a different industry. That never sounded good to me.
I am not one for massive regulation on anything, but COME ON! The reason the banks and housing industries collapsed is because they had no oversight and no regulation whatsoever. They were given free reign to do whatever and they clearly did. We certainly don't need massive regulation but we don't need NO regulation either.
I at least have faith that Obama will use sound judgment and not go completely far left on everything. He seems to have gone middle-of-the-road where-as McCain seemed to go from middle-right to far-right.
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Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes.
Bush's group is making the country socialist for the rich, capitalistic for the rest. |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | said by toby:Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes. Not sure where you came up with that bogus statement, as countries such as France have a total taxation of close to 72%.
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I think I can agree to that.
People aren't being rational period. Politically, socially, religiously and otherwise. 
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said by BF69:The Cold War ended 17 years ago. get over yourself there is no commie invasion coming. Talk about tin foil hat club I think the Republic of Georgia thought the same thing.
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said by skrupowies:said by Singular:Ahh... the good old spread the wealth around theory, my own money that I work hard for doesn't even belong to me anymore. It belongs to everyone else. Well we certainly can't allow you to have more than your neighbor. So it's got to be taken away from you and given to someone that doesn't want to work as hard as you. After all, that is the Democrat way Barack Obama way Socialist way. Of sourse, those three are all one in the same. Many ,m any aspecxts of this country are already socialist. This nothing new. Pure capitalosm doesn't work and pure communism doesn't work. |
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See my comment re discussing politics rationally. The two points you make don't apply to me or my views; you completely miss the mark on where I stand politically or socially. People simply don't read, think, or interpret critically on these - and most other - forums. How you drew the conclusions you did are well beyond my pay grade 
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said by toby:Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes. Bush's group is making the country socialist for the rich, capitalistic for the rest. Totally wrong ... why would you even write something like this? Do a little research before making a fool of yourself in a public forum. |
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The commie invasion just started ... "we the people" voted it in. |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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said by AlexNYC:said by toby:Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes. Bush's group is making the country socialist for the rich, capitalistic for the rest. Totally wrong ... why would you even write something like this? Do a little research before making a fool of yourself in a public forum. His comment gave me a laugh thats for sure!
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said by wifi4milez:said by toby:Compared to Western countries, our total taxes (income/property/sales/school/fees...etc) is actually higher, and we get very little in return for these high taxes. Not sure where you came up with that bogus statement, as countries such as France have a total taxation of close to 72%. In reality, Americans, in 1988, paid up to 92% of their income in taxes. You need to consider the 'hidden' taxes--like those passed down to the consumer by manufacturers in the price of goods. The biggie though is inflation. More correctly, monetary depreciation. The government prints paper and gets the full value of it the first time it uses the paper, but by the time it trickles down to the public, the increase in paper circulating has reduced the market value of those dollars. So the government taxes you via inflation, the most cleverly-disguised tax.
Why else would the guy earning $100,000 only have about $8,000 or less in disposable income? |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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So the government taxes you via inflation, the most cleverly-disguised tax.
That makes no sense at all. The government in no way benefits from inflation, so it cant be grouped with taxation.
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Why else would the guy earning $100,000 only have about $8,000 or less in disposable income?
That doesnt make any sense either, and it is impossible to answer that. There are a multitude of things that we would need to know before we can even begin to analyze this. Such as, where does that person live, how much is his rent, does he have terrible rate on a mortgage, how big is his family, etc. etc. etc.
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