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<description><![CDATA[emptywig posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1470318" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1470318');">furionbr</a>:</small><br><br>Still, they own uTorrent, the world's most used BitTorrent client. It is something...<br> </div>What is it, though?  Its a free product.  Not exactly the kind of thing that is going to make the register ring.<br><br>These kids need to realize that businesses are about SELLING THINGS, not giving them away.<br><br>wig<br><small>--<br>Please keep your f---ing religion to yourself.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Agreed, and if you don't want Red Hat, get CentOS. The whole idea that FOSS doesn't make money is hooey and FUD. Same with Ubuntu. How does Canonical pay their employees? I'm sorry, but just how did the creator of BitTorrent lose his perspective on things? I'm sure the record companies are dangling poison carrots.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:25:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[patcat88 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/906493" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=906493');">knightmb</a>:</small><br><br>It might, but is there already a lot of open source projects that work just like BT and uT? Seems those would be where everyone would gravitate to.<br> </div>You must mean the BitTorrent competitors Vuze?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:39:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[knightmb posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1016963" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1016963');">Anonymous</a>:</small><br><br>I have a feeling the next version of uTorrent will be ad supported  :uhh: and it will slowly move to obscurity as other clients take over...<br> </div>It might, but is there already a lot of open source projects that work just like BT and uT? Seems those would be where everyone would gravitate to.<br><small>--<br>Fight NebuAD and the like:<br><A HREF="http://wanip.org/anti-nebuad/">Click Here to pollute their data</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:13:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1304890" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1304890');">Sammer</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1110570" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1110570');">King P</a>:</small><br><br>Yeah, but at least you can still get Red Hat's source code, and modify it (that's where White Box and CentOS come from). This isn't the case with uTorrent.<br> </div><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/216197" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=216197');">dnoyeB</a>:</small><br><br>Red Hat didn't do that.  Their products are still open source.  Last I checked even their enterprise server was.  Red Hat makes their money on service contracts and providing servers and whatnot.  They don't sell the software product itself.<br> </div><b>You guys are making my point and AFAIK Enterprise Server is not open source because it contains proprietary code from third parties.</b> Some in the open source community still bitched about the change in Red Hat's business model but that is very different from how most people view adding DRM and associating BitTorrent with the **AAs.<br> </div>i know this is a bit off topic, but I'm really curious, what proprietary code? if anything, i'd say RHEL isn't exactly free because you can't update it without paying for updates.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:22:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Sammer posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1110570" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1110570');">King P</a>:</small><br><br>Yeah, but at least you can still get Red Hat's source code, and modify it (that's where White Box and CentOS come from). This isn't the case with uTorrent.<br> </div><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/216197" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=216197');">dnoyeB</a>:</small><br><br>Red Hat didn't do that.  Their products are still open source.  Last I checked even their enterprise server was.  Red Hat makes their money on service contracts and providing servers and whatnot.  They don't sell the software product itself.<br> </div>You guys are making my point and AFAIK Enterprise Server is not open source because it contains proprietary code from third parties. Some in the open source community still bitched about the change in Red Hat's business model but that is very different from how most people view adding DRM and associating BitTorrent with the **AAs.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:24:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[dnoyeB posted : Red Hat didn't do that.  Their products are still open source.  Last I checked even their enterprise server was.  Red Hat makes their money on service contracts and providing servers and whatnot.  They don't sell the software product itself.<br><small>--<br>dnoyeB<br>"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:37:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[King P posted : Yeah, but at least you can still get Red Hat's source code, and modify it (that's where White Box and CentOS come from). This isn't the case with uTorrent.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:30:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Anonymous posted : I have a feeling the next version of uTorrent will be ad supported  :uhh: and it will slowly move to obscurity as other clients take over...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:58:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Sammer posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1470318" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1470318');">furionbr</a>:</small><br><br>when you have something that was free and open coded, and you transform that in something paid, bad things will happen.<br> </div>While there will always be bitching when something free and open coded is transformed into something paid (think Red Hat) this was more like transforming into what most people consider evil.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:58:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[furionbr posted : when you have something that was free and open coded, and you transform that in something paid, bad things will happen.<br><br>Still, they own uTorrent, the world's most used BitTorrent client. It is something...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:42:43 EDT</pubDate>
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