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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
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·Verizon FiOS

fios is more costly..

price for some is king... and Verizon ain't the cheapest service on the block... but the internet is pretty good.

I can't imagine Verizon, or Time Warner sticking to a $29.95 price tag for 10 years, let alone customer by customer basis in really competitive areas.

Yes, Cablevision's service probably does suck in some parts of it's footprint... and for that, they may pay for it in small chunks of the footprint switching. As for a mass exodus... that's all speculation.

From my perspective.. I had OV(optimum voice) back 4-5 years ago... and it DID suck, bigtime. I think they've improved it around the margins (and there still is room for improvement, such as that hideous voicemail system)... newer battery backed cablemodems and somewhat improved sound quality (QOS) is now there where it had not been before. As for it's being better/more reliable than FIOS/POT$ ... is moot at this point.. fans of both providers can find something they like and hate about both companies. Go where you get the best service and the best deal... and if you sign a contract.. say with Verizon... make sure you add in some caveats of your own... such as:

1. Don't screw up my billing.
2. Dont' overcharge.
3. Don't nickel and dime for extras (the FCC will have to $uck real hard to try and get $6+ from my voip access)
4. Have an exit-clause, or pro-rated ETF should service on any of the FIOS products degrade or a competitor offers a sweet deal (think docsis 3.0)

Cable companies are more flexible in their offerings and will waive, reduce or not have ETFs, installation fees now. This is how they compete in the era of Uverse and Fios. Expanded docsis 3 in 2009...

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1

Cablevision was using a different telephone system 4-5 years ago which wasnt voice over ip . Now its voip which is different.



n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

reply to tmc8080
One thing to add is that FiOS adds additional fees and taxes for voice and internet that CV does not, such as the $6.50 FCC Line Charge. CV has its own nuisance fees but those are for the video services which is to be expected since they are the incumbent provider. Your best deal, assuming you are not on triple play, would be to get video through FiOS and voice and internet through CV.
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UofMiamiGrad
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join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY

said by n2jtx:

One thing to add is that FiOS adds additional fees and taxes for voice and internet that CV does not, such as the $6.50 FCC Line Charge.
There is no additional charge for Internet, what you are priced at is what you pay. Voice is where the taxes and fees get you. I pay an addition $14/month on taxes and fees for my freedom essentials ($25/month) under the double play bundle. My 20/20 is $54.99 and there is not a single fee or tax added to it.

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

reply to tmc8080

Re: fios is more costly..

quote:
Cable companies are more flexible in their offerings and will waive, reduce or not have ETFs, installation fees now. This is how they compete in the era of Uverse and Fios. Expanded docsis 3 in 2009...
Cable doesnt lock customers in ONLY because their installations are much cheaper for the company. Theres a lot of manpower and hardware that goes into FiOS installations so it absolutley must be done. Its almost the same as getting a free cellphone BUT you must sign up for X amount of time so they can make the money back.

If you want the best product out there, and god, Cablevision is SO 1990's, you gotta be a FiOS customer for a while. Most like it, and stay.

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