Re: Obama in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21404384 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:45 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:33:45 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21407885 james :
said by Truthful :

If you voted for Nader, you effectively voted for Bush. Pleased with yourself?
The only reason third party votes are throwaway votes is because everyone thinks they're throwaway votes. It's self fulfilling, and only true because it is throught to be true.

The Democrats and Republicans are the same party, they went to the same schools and were in the same fraternities. They only differ on a very few unimportant things such as Gay Marriage and Abortion, but are arm in arm when it comes to all the important things such as pandering to corporate fat cats and keeping wars going.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21407885 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:02:35 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21407614 SLD : You may have noticed that Bush wasn't running...
And if you sell your vote to the least worse candidate, you just sold yourself short.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21407614 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:01:17 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21407130 battleop : If anything maybe one would trade it's wireless for the others land line. It's not very likely to happen but if it were to happen it would happen under a heavily republican administration. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21407130 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:29:20 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21407034 anon : If you voted for Nader, you effectively voted for Bush. Pleased with yourself?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21407034 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:12:43 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405265 jmn1207 :
said by S_engineer See Profile :

So your saying that you don't think Ross Perot would have had an impact before he went crazy? :D
»www.pollyticks.com/item/the-best···ss-perot :D

Crazy Ross actually did make a huge impact. In fact, it was precisely because of him, and the unforeseen risk he presented to the Republicans and Democrats, that the rules for the national debates were updated to keep similar opponents from sharing the stage with them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405265 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:27:51 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405230 S_engineer : So your saying that you don't think Ross Perot would have had an impact before he went crazy? :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405230 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:20:21 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405203 Sammer :
said by battleop See Profile :

Heh This will probably delay the thoughs of an AT&T Verizon merger by 4 to 8 years :)
Do you really think AT&T will screw up so badly that Verizon will be able to afford to take them over?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405203 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:14:24 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405116 Sammer :
said by supergirl See Profile :

Before Martin took over, the FCC was more consumer friendly. Democrats will make it that way again.
The two current Democrats prove that isn't necessarily true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405116 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:58:00 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405054 SLD : If you *listen*, he never called him that.
You could Wikipedia the term to understand it a bit.
I know you're from good 'ole Tennessee, but remember, just because FOX says it doesn't make it true.

Nader speaks in terms of consumerism vs. corporate power. He is a minority Arab-American. He as protected all of us with his work and saved thousands of lives in the process. Just because Shepard Smith and some blondie GOP "newscaster" misunderstand his statements doesn't make them incorrect.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21405054 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:46:50 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404966 BF69 :
said by SLD See Profile :

Understand his words in the context of his argument and you'll understand that Fox missed the poing.
There is ZERO context in which it is ok to call a black man especially the President "Uncle Tom". NONE. ZILCH. NADA. he might as well called him a n1gger.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404966 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:30:50 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404961 elray :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Will this give Comcast a break at the FCC after Martin and his cable vendetta is gone from the scene?

At least 1 thing is certain - Comcast's Cohen will have the ear of the President as 1 of his biggest fund raisers in the recent election.

I guess a lot of people will be shocked that Obama was/is/will be bought just like all pols.
Uh, vendetta?

The FCC hasn't done anything substantial to rein in cable, since the "reform" act passed Congress. They've given a slight gift to telcos - removing line sharing and state regulation of DSL, but that really only puts them on a level playing field with cable.

Not the way I'd run things, but hardly a "vendetta".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404961 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:29:58 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404872 SLD : Understand his words in the context of his argument and you'll understand that Fox missed the point.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404872 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:15:03 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404689 battleop : Heh This will probably delay the thoughs of an AT&T Verizon merger by 4 to 8 years :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404689 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:37:26 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404647 voipdabbler : I wouldn't hold my breath. Biden, Obama and other Congressional democrats have just as many connections with industry groups that want to limit fair use and other consumer rights (doctrine of first sale, etc.). Truthfully, this country needs a viable third political party--the democrats and republicans are too closely aligned on many policy issues (gee, guess who marched lock-step with Bush on anything labeled "national security"--democrats currently in Congress). With respect to cable, cellular, etc., you're more likely to see higher fees, period. (I expect to see federal regulatory fees for almost everything increase; if you don't cut federal spending then you have to increase fees and taxes.) Thankfully, Congress only sits for 2 years--in 2010 all of the house and 1/3rd of the Senate will be up for re-election. If the 111th Congress, which will be sworn in in January 2009, enacts unpopular/harmful legislation, then the majority party will pay the price at the polls in the 2010 elections. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404647 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:28:47 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404634 satellite68 :
said by SLD See Profile :

I voted for Nader.
In other news, local man shouts obscenities at passing train. Nobody heard what he was saying, so the story seems unimportant.

Glad to know you're one of the 600k people who voted for an asshat like Nader, who just can't keep his yapper shut:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo
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quote:
At least 1 thing is certain - Comcast's Cohen will have the ear of the President as 1 of his biggest fund raisers in the recent election.
Technically, that's the only thing that isn't certain in this story. Interesting point otherwise, though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404602 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:21:38 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404573 TKJunkMail : Will this give Comcast a break at the FCC after Martin and his cable vendetta is gone from the scene?

At least 1 thing is certain - Comcast's Cohen will have the ear of the President as 1 of his biggest fund raisers in the recent election.

I guess a lot of people will be shocked that Obama was/is/will be bought just like all pols.
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said by I pos rep See Profile :

When have you seen an independent win recently? This has happened very few times in the whole country's history and I can't remember when that was last.
What do you expect when a duopoly of political parties bands together and creates the rules for elections and national debates? I wouldn't expect them to allow for an impartial 3rd party to be able to get involved and make any kind of a legitimate impact on the status quo. Besides, money is the biggest obstacle, and anyone with the resources to generate enough of it are probably not much different in character and substance than any other career politician looking out for the corporations.

Sorry Comcast, we will surely see another "Martin" in this position as the Telcos have control and they know how to keep it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404567 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:16:02 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404506 Bill03 :
said by supergirl See Profile :

Before Martin took over, the FCC was more consumer friendly. Democrats will make it that way again.
I wished I shared your optimism.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404506 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:08:01 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404482 SLD : I voted for Nader.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404482 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:02:03 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404478 supergirl : Before Martin took over, the FCC was more consumer friendly. Democrats will make it that way again. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404478 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:00:53 EDT Re: Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404457 Titus Pullo :
said by SLD See Profile :

Funny how so many people bought the story that Obama was driven mostly by individual contributions. I'm glad he beat McCain, but it'll come out that he is a corporate toadie just like the rest of them.
If you want a pol not tied to corporate money, you'd better find another party. Strike that, another country. Strike that ... you won't find one.
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said by SLD See Profile :

Funny how so many people bought the story that Obama was driven mostly by individual contributions. I'm glad he beat McCain, but it'll come out that he is a corporate toadie just like the rest of them.
Stating the obvious much? You realize how much money alone they used on advertising right?

I am sure Obama could not pay that out of his own checking account. Obviously every politician has some corporate ties in some way. One might have less than the other and be better but both candidates always share a lot in common. When have you seen an independent win recently? This has happened very few times in the whole country's history and I can't remember when that was last.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404384 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:43:02 EDT Obama http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404303 SLD : Funny how so many people bought the story that Obama was driven mostly by individual contributions. I'm glad he beat McCain, but it'll come out that he is a corporate toadie just like the rest of them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21404303 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:30:05 EDT