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Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:02:35 EDT

james posted :

said by Truthful :

If you voted for Nader, you effectively voted for Bush. Pleased with yourself?

The only reason third party votes are throwaway votes is because everyone thinks they're throwaway votes. It's self fulfilling, and only true because it is throught to be true.

The Democrats and Republicans are the same party, they went to the same schools and were in the same fraternities. They only differ on a very few unimportant things such as Gay Marriage and Abortion, but are arm in arm when it comes to all the important things such as pandering to corporate fat cats and keeping wars going.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:01:17 EDT

SLD posted : You may have noticed that Bush wasn't running...
And if you sell your vote to the least worse candidate, you just sold yourself short.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:29:20 EDT

battleop posted : If anything maybe one would trade it's wireless for the others land line. It's not very likely to happen but if it were to happen it would happen under a heavily republican administration.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:12:43 EDT

anon posted : If you voted for Nader, you effectively voted for Bush. Pleased with yourself?

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:27:51 EDT

jmn1207 posted :

said by S_engineer:

So your saying that you don't think Ross Perot would have had an impact before he went crazy? :D

»www.pollyticks.com/item/the-best···ss-perot :D

Crazy Ross actually did make a huge impact. In fact, it was precisely because of him, and the unforeseen risk he presented to the Republicans and Democrats, that the rules for the national debates were updated to keep similar opponents from sharing the stage with them.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:20:21 EDT

S_engineer posted : So your saying that you don't think Ross Perot would have had an impact before he went crazy? :D

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:14:24 EDT

Sammer posted :

said by battleop:

Heh This will probably delay the thoughs of an AT&T Verizon merger by 4 to 8 years :)

Do you really think AT&T will screw up so badly that Verizon will be able to afford to take them over?

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:58:00 EDT

Sammer posted :

said by supergirl:

Before Martin took over, the FCC was more consumer friendly. Democrats will make it that way again.

The two current Democrats prove that isn't necessarily true.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:46:50 EDT

SLD posted : If you *listen*, he never called him that.
You could Wikipedia the term to understand it a bit.
I know you're from good 'ole Tennessee, but remember, just because FOX says it doesn't make it true.

Nader speaks in terms of consumerism vs. corporate power. He is a minority Arab-American. He as protected all of us with his work and saved thousands of lives in the process. Just because Shepard Smith and some blondie GOP "newscaster" misunderstand his statements doesn't make them incorrect.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:30:50 EDT

BF69 posted :

said by SLD:

Understand his words in the context of his argument and you'll understand that Fox missed the poing.

There is ZERO context in which it is ok to call a black man especially the President "Uncle Tom". NONE. ZILCH. NADA. he might as well called him a n1gger.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:29:58 EDT

elray posted :

said by ThrowDemsOut:

Will this give Comcast a break at the FCC after Martin and his cable vendetta is gone from the scene?

At least 1 thing is certain - Comcast's Cohen will have the ear of the President as 1 of his biggest fund raisers in the recent election.

I guess a lot of people will be shocked that Obama was/is/will be bought just like all pols.

Uh, vendetta?

The FCC hasn't done anything substantial to rein in cable, since the "reform" act passed Congress. They've given a slight gift to telcos - removing line sharing and state regulation of DSL, but that really only puts them on a level playing field with cable.

Not the way I'd run things, but hardly a "vendetta".

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:15:03 EDT

SLD posted : Understand his words in the context of his argument and you'll understand that Fox missed the point.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:37:26 EDT

battleop posted : Heh This will probably delay the thoughs of an AT&T Verizon merger by 4 to 8 years :)

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:28:47 EDT

voipdabbler posted : I wouldn't hold my breath. Biden, Obama and other Congressional democrats have just as many connections with industry groups that want to limit fair use and other consumer rights (doctrine of first sale, etc.). Truthfully, this country needs a viable third political party--the democrats and republicans are too closely aligned on many policy issues (gee, guess who marched lock-step with Bush on anything labeled "national security"--democrats currently in Congress). With respect to cable, cellular, etc., you're more likely to see higher fees, period. (I expect to see federal regulatory fees for almost everything increase; if you don't cut federal spending then you have to increase fees and taxes.) Thankfully, Congress only sits for 2 years--in 2010 all of the house and 1/3rd of the Senate will be up for re-election. If the 111th Congress, which will be sworn in in January 2009, enacts unpopular/harmful legislation, then the majority party will pay the price at the polls in the 2010 elections.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:26:15 EDT

satellite68 posted :

said by SLD:

I voted for Nader.

In other news, local man shouts obscenities at passing train. Nobody heard what he was saying, so the story seems unimportant.

Glad to know you're one of the 600k people who voted for an asshat like Nader, who just can't keep his yapper shut:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:21:38 EDT

Karl Bode posted :

quote:
At least 1 thing is certain - Comcast's Cohen will have the ear of the President as 1 of his biggest fund raisers in the recent election.

Technically, that's the only thing that isn't certain in this story. Interesting point otherwise, though.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:16:56 EDT

ThrowDemsOut posted : Will this give Comcast a break at the FCC after Martin and his cable vendetta is gone from the scene?

At least 1 thing is certain - Comcast's Cohen will have the ear of the President as 1 of his biggest fund raisers in the recent election.

I guess a lot of people will be shocked that Obama was/is/will be bought just like all pols.
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Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:16:02 EDT

jmn1207 posted :

said by I pos rep:

When have you seen an independent win recently? This has happened very few times in the whole country's history and I can't remember when that was last.

What do you expect when a duopoly of political parties bands together and creates the rules for elections and national debates? I wouldn't expect them to allow for an impartial 3rd party to be able to get involved and make any kind of a legitimate impact on the status quo. Besides, money is the biggest obstacle, and anyone with the resources to generate enough of it are probably not much different in character and substance than any other career politician looking out for the corporations.

Sorry Comcast, we will surely see another "Martin" in this position as the Telcos have control and they know how to keep it.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:08:01 EDT

Bill03 posted :

said by supergirl:

Before Martin took over, the FCC was more consumer friendly. Democrats will make it that way again.

I wished I shared your optimism.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:02:03 EDT

SLD posted : I voted for Nader.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:00:53 EDT

supergirl posted : Before Martin took over, the FCC was more consumer friendly. Democrats will make it that way again.

Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:56:42 EDT

Titus Pullo posted :

said by SLD:

Funny how so many people bought the story that Obama was driven mostly by individual contributions. I'm glad he beat McCain, but it'll come out that he is a corporate toadie just like the rest of them.

If you want a pol not tied to corporate money, you'd better find another party. Strike that, another country. Strike that ... you won't find one.
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Re: Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:43:02 EDT

I pos rep posted :

Stating the obvious much? You realize how much money alone they used on advertising right?

I am sure Obama could not pay that out of his own checking account. Obviously every politician has some corporate ties in some way. One might have less than the other and be better but both candidates always share a lot in common. When have you seen an independent win recently? This has happened very few times in the whole country's history and I can't remember when that was last.

Obama

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:30:05 EDT

SLD posted : Funny how so many people bought the story that Obama was driven mostly by individual contributions. I'm glad he beat McCain, but it'll come out that he is a corporate toadie just like the rest of them.