Jon J
join:2000-06-12
Nashville, TN | reply to signmeuptoo
Re: Bandwidth caps?
My Bellsouth service pre-ATT was consistently 1.5/256. Post changeover to ATT is is 1.25/200. ATT techs say it is within their "service guidelines" and I should just shut up and be happy. |
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mikes60
My Paradise
Premium
join:2001-07-31
Boynton Beach, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
 ·Vonage
| You may have a problem somewhere, but it is not related to Bandwith Caps- which don't really exist today in any case.
I doubt if your speed drop was related to any changeover from BellSouth to AT&T. I don't doubt your claim that the speed has dropped, but I would certainly suggest tweaking your connection as suggested in the following FAQ:
»AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ
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Jon J
join:2000-06-12
Nashville, TN | Been there. Done that. No change.
But, thanks for the advice, anyway.
Maybe there is no correlation between ATTs takeover and the drop, but it does seem strange. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to Jon J
1.2/200 is expected throughput on a 1.5Mb/s line with standard overhead. You must have been on a max sync profile earlier. It was probably changed during a maintenance cut. It had nothing to do with the merger. |
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ja5219
join:2006-11-27
Hickory, NC
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If they are still testing, that means its not yet implemented right?
Also.. they say it will be placed before the end of the year.. we only have one month left... oh boy!
Just wondering as there are 2 more days left in the month and I am running close!! Can't believe it but 20GB for my 768/128kbps I will have to cope with  |
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Jon J
join:2000-06-12
Nashville, TN
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said by bogey780  :1.2/200 is expected throughput on a 1.5Mb/s line with standard overhead. You must have been on a max sync profile earlier. It was probably changed during a maintenance cut. Wonder why they would arbitrarily reduce a speed that was obviously working? |
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bell insider
join:2008-10-09
| said by Jon J :said by bogey780 :1.2/200 is expected throughput on a 1.5Mb/s line with standard overhead. You must have been on a max sync profile earlier. It was probably changed during a maintenance cut. Wonder why they would arbitrarily reduce a speed that was obviously working? The problem shall be found in an ATM tax on the circuit, MAX SYNC is a neat way for Bell to hide that network tax on each person... Actually robbing customers o what they were advertised for... Even from an insider standpoint, that is without just asking a buddy to change it and wait for the next network audit to catch it, I'd suggest calling the FCC and making a complaint concerning that problem.. A member of the ATT Executive Escalation team shall call you back and resolve the issue in 20 mins... PLUS, with more and more complaints, the FCC shall eventually force Bell South to provide exact service to all without hassle... |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
1 edit | You're not an AT&T SE insider. What you said is factually flawed and your summation is wrong on all accounts.
He was probably shifted from one port to another or his line couldn't sustain max sync speeds for some reason I souldn't speculate on. |
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bell insider
join:2008-10-09
| said by bogey780 :You're not an AT&T SE insider. What you said is factually flawed and your summation is wrong on all accounts. He was probably shifted from one port to another or his line couldn't sustain max sync speeds for some reason I souldn't speculate on. Hmmmm....
Do the math, ATM over head is anywhere from 18-22%...
Anyway Bogey, hope your way works out for you. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Presidential support won't handle this. Neither will the FCC. |
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Jon J
join:2000-06-12
Nashville, TN
| reply to bogey780
said by bogey780 :He was probably shifted from one port to another or his line couldn't sustain max sync speeds for some reason I souldn't speculate on. Any changes were instigated by ATT for no apparent reason and are to my detriment. |
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FAQFixer
Premium
join:2004-06-28
Powder Springs, GA
1 edit | Jon J,
You should check your synch rates and see if there is a possible line issue. You could have been changed from MaxSync to a standard DSLAM profile or you may have just developed a line issue that keeps you from synching any higher. Post your line rates.
»AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »How do I check modem stats & event logs? What do the numbers mean? |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
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said by bell insider :The problem shall be found in an ATM tax on the circuit, Considering that the OP states he was formerly getting 1.5/256, and considering that ATM didn't suddenly magically appear on his circuit, I think it's likely some other issue.
said by bell insider :MAX SYNC is a neat way for Bell to hide that network tax on each person... Actually robbing customers o what they were advertised for... You seem to misunderstand what max sync is, and how it works. Perhaps if you read up a bit on it you'd understand better...here's a link to the FAQ: »AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »MaxSync Profile?
Max Sync allows the modem to sync with the DSLAM at the maximum downstream rate. The line is then shaped via radius to whatever speed the customer is paying for. And AT&T SE overprovisions all the radius profiles so that the subscribers do indeed see the full downstream speeds.
Far from "robbing customers o what they were advertised for" (sic), Max Sync is a means of ensuring that they do get exactly what is advertised and what they're paying for. Barring, of course, other issues on the line.
To the OP, I second FAQ's suggestion. Before blaming anything else, check the stats and see what's going on there. It may be a provisioning issue as Bogey suggests, but rule out a physical issue first. Don't just assume... |
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normat
Premium
join:2000-08-02
Boynton Beach, FL
clubs: | reply to signmeuptoo
For all the fuss about caps I haven't known anyone to actually have called out for overage.
However, what worries me is a situation like a Netfilx user getting busted and Uverse user not having the same restrictions. |
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bell insider
join:2008-10-09
| reply to RJ44
RJ,
We again butt head on issues that, I have other knowledge than you.. I understand that if you have been brought up to believe that the world is flat by Bell South, then when I come along to tell you how it is really round... It doesn't make alot of sense...
However, if you would care to explore in the other regional forums and do yourself a favor and ask questions about how things are working properly, ya might be of greater assistance to the peopel that are depending on you making quality decisions...
Contrary to the propaganda given to you and others to view and discover "miracle" ways to fix them screwing customers...
What people fail to realize.... Bell South and its miracle max sync stuff is only doing one thing.... Giving the customer the appearance(only from house to DSLAM) of blazing fast speeds, while they cap the virtual side of the circuit on Layer 2 & 3 through bandwidth tax... Per AT&T Executive Office, Bell South does not, by policy, over provision Layer 2, therefore even if over provisioned in the Radius layer (Layer 3)... It still has not been given lower in the encapsulation, thus can not multiply on Layer 3. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| Again, you know nothing of how BellSouth provisioned their circuits and you have a flawed understanding of how the system works.
'Bell South and its miracle max sync stuff is only doing one thing.... Giving the customer the appearance(only from house to DSLAM) of blazing fast speeds'
Corvettes and GT-R's give the appearance of blazing fast speed as well apparently. |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
| reply to bell insider
said by bell insider :RJ, We again butt head on issues that, I have other knowledge than you.. Oh, you definitely have other "knowledge", I freely admit that.
Please use that knowledge to explain to all the BellSouth customers who are getting in excess of 6Mbps downloads to sites all over the country, that they are being throttled below 6 Meg at layer two.
When you've finished, please explain to me how it's possible for someone throttled to 6 meg or below at layer 2 to achieve speeds greater than 6 meg.
FWIW, I totally agree with you that speeds can't be multiplied on layer three above what they're set to at layer two. So there must be some other explanation for the phenomenon. The only one I can think of is that they AREN'T being throttled at layer two. But I'd love to hear your theory. |
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rainallday
join:2001-04-15
Columbia, SC
| reply to signmeuptoo
I'm still throttled down to 5.5 from the 6.2 that it was for years..Started around the beginning of November I think...Not a single change on my end for at least the last 2 years...I know it's not a big change, but it's a change for sure... 
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