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Ikarasu

join:2004-01-09
Port Coquitlam, BC

reply to Ikyuao

Re: att

Yeah. God forbid an ISP gets into the TV business with IPTV.

Innovation, it sucks big time!


imrf
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Utica, MI

Nothing wrong with it, but they should have used a better delivery system than VDSL.



djrobx

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said by imrf:

Nothing wrong with it, but they should have used a better delivery system than VDSL.
Agreed. However, I do give AT&T credit for making each and evey megabit out of the 25 count.

Time Warner Cable, on the other hand, has all sorts of capacity, yet they're delivering poor quality HD video and a piss-poor selection of HD channels in our area. AT&T's highly compressed MPEG-4 video does have its flaws but it never completely loses its composure like what I've recently been getting from TW (I have both services.). It's a shame because the TW PQ was excellent prior to the recent channel additions.
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imrf
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said by djrobx:

Time Warner Cable, on the other hand, has all sorts of capacity, yet they're delivering poor quality HD video and a piss-poor selection of HD channels in our area.
You know for a fact that they don't have open bandwidth? I tend to think they are out of capacity and haven't fully implemented SDV, and once they do they can remove the overcompression.


djrobx

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said by imrf:

said by djrobx:

Time Warner Cable, on the other hand, has all sorts of capacity, yet they're delivering poor quality HD video and a piss-poor selection of HD channels in our area.
You know for a fact that they don't have open bandwidth? I tend to think they are out of capacity and haven't fully implemented SDV, and once they do they can remove the overcompression.
I didn't say they had open capacity - just lots of capacity. Cable has so much potential, but from my perspective as a customer, a lot of it seems to get lost in slow upgrade cycles. Even if they get SDV and fix the compression tomorrow, what about the 6412 DVR with software from 2003 that doesn't allow me to watch my HD shows across TVs in the house? Verizon's essentially working with digital cable gear, but they're doing multi-room DVR. Why not Time Warner?

Perhaps TW should have been a little more aggressive about getting SDV rolled out consistently across LA if that's their path to competitve HD service. The Adelphia/Comcast buyout is no longer a valid excuse, they've had the systems for over 2 years. Whatever the rationale for the current state of things is, I'm eager for the fix.

I switched to AT&T expecting it to be a band-aid until TW got their upgrades done. At this rate the tortoise (AT&T) is going to beat the hare (TW).
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Telco hasn't been fast on everything either... I'm still waiting for Uverse Voice.
At least AT&T _finally_ pushed its 3G over 850MHz in Valencia



imrf
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said by djrobx:

what about the 6412 DVR with software from 2003 that doesn't allow me to watch my HD shows across TVs in the house? Verizon's essentially working with digital cable gear, but they're doing multi-room DVR. Why not Time Warner?
Ok, first of all, the 6412 isn't MoCA capable like the newer version boxes that Verizon uses. That's why Verizon can already. And TWC, if the area uses SA boxes, they use a special splitter that is required and only allows for 4 boxes to be hooked up to it.

Perhaps TW should have been a little more aggressive about getting SDV rolled out consistently across LA if that's their path to competitve HD service. The Adelphia/Comcast buyout is no longer a valid excuse, they've had the systems for over 2 years. Whatever the rationale for the current state of things is, I'm eager for the fix.
I'm just gonna guess and they just think AT&T isn't a real competitor. I dunno.


djrobx

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quote:
Ok, first of all, the 6412 isn't MoCA capable like the newer version boxes that Verizon uses. That's why Verizon can already. And TWC, if the area uses SA boxes, they use a special splitter that is required and only allows for 4 boxes to be hooked up to it.
Of course I don't expect them to make the old hardware to perform eccentric new tricks. But they could offer new, more advanced MoCA capable boxes to customers who want them for a fee. That's what I mean by slow upgrade cycles. With Direct or Dish I can go buy a new fancified receiver every couple years if I want to keep up with the latest and greatest.

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I'm just gonna guess and they just think AT&T isn't a real competitor. I dunno.
Or DirecTV, or Verizon, or DISH Netork...

TWC's sluggishness in deploying HD in LA made the front page of the Los Angeles Times in May. The channels they promised to deliver by July 1 in this article are still not rolled out in some areas!

Now, when I read that article, I would have thought that meant they've been working to roll SDV out. 7 months later, the channels have been crammed in, PQ is suffering and there's still no SDV. Lord knows how long we'll be waiting for the next batch of channels. Meanwhile rumor has it AT&T's prepping for a new batch of HD channels for the end of Nov or early Dec.

I'm sure a year or two from now they'll finally make their technological leaps and all will be well again.

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