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knightmb
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join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN

reply to otty

Re: why pay monthly?

said by otty:

I just quit Vonage. I dont see why people would use pay-monthly VOIP when you can get it neary free through Skype or even cheaper-voipbuster.
People still want phones. I like talking on a phone that doesn't depend on my PC to work. Skype / MagicJack / etc is cool and all, but they are only one solution to the many that exist and what people want from a phone service.
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elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

said by knightmb:

said by otty:

I just quit Vonage. I dont see why people would use pay-monthly VOIP when you can get it neary free through Skype or even cheaper-voipbuster.
People still want phones. I like talking on a phone that doesn't depend on my PC to work. Skype / MagicJack / etc is cool and all, but they are only one solution to the many that exist and what people want from a phone service.
you can get skype wi-fi based phones that are about the size of a cell phone that work just fine with no PC

elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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said by elios:

said by knightmb:

People still want phones. I like talking on a phone that doesn't depend on my PC to work.
you can get skype wi-fi based phones that are about the size of a cell phone that work just fine with no PC
A $150 proprietary WiFi phone (or the $80 cheep Belkin desk phone) may do the trick, in terms of turning off the PC, but why can't Skype produce an ATA, so we can use our existing phones?


elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

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said by elray:

said by elios:

said by knightmb:

People still want phones. I like talking on a phone that doesn't depend on my PC to work.
you can get skype wi-fi based phones that are about the size of a cell phone that work just fine with no PC
A $150 proprietary WiFi phone (or the $80 cheep Belkin desk phone) may do the trick, in terms of turning off the PC, but why can't Skype produce an ATA, so we can use our existing phones?
they have them too if you want one

have you look at the skype store on the site?

edit or at lest they USED to sell one
guess no one even wanted to buy it

mind you if you did use ATA you would lose most of things that make skype nice like PC to PC calls and what not
which is why i guess they dont sell it any more


otty

join:2008-10-24
Revelstoke, BC

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reply to elios

said by elios:

said by knightmb:

said by otty:

I just quit Vonage. I dont see why people would use pay-monthly VOIP when you can get it neary free through Skype or even cheaper-voipbuster.
People still want phones. I like talking on a phone that doesn't depend on my PC to work. Skype / MagicJack / etc is cool and all, but they are only one solution to the many that exist and what people want from a phone service.
you can get skype wi-fi based phones that are about the size of a cell phone that work just fine with no PC
May be true people still want phones, just like they want mp3 players AND cell phones AND tvs AND pcs AND gpss seperate, but why? As usual its just people following the trend. Just moved from the UK where it's cheap to have your mp3 AND gps AND internet AND (kinda) PC in one, AND, at home, your internet and tv on a big screen. No matter the money to be made on keeping all of this (and other services I can't think of right now) seperate, eventually the big corp.s will learn, and provide it ALL....As I pointed out about VOIP its already here take advatage if you're in the 'know'.

EDIT: Want some proof? check out Virgin Medias 20mb service I had over there (freely upgraded by more than 2x in my first year). This is REAL cometition getting REAL service (no downtime in 2 years, no caps(throttled daily after 2gb download to 7mb...no extra charge)) The US should take notice NOT TO MENION CANADA WHERE IT RELLY SUCKS!!!
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nitzan
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said by elray:

but why can't Skype produce an ATA, so we can use our existing phones?
Because they don't want you to use an ATA.

They're not in the business of selling $5/month (or whatever) phone lines - their whole business plan revolves around the fact that you can only use their service around your computer - which means that even if they sell you "unlimited" service, you're going to use it far less than if it was connected to a regular phone.
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elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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reply to elios

said by elios:

they have them too if you want one

have you look at the skype store on the site?

edit or at lest they USED to sell one
guess no one even wanted to buy it

mind you if you did use ATA you would lose most of things that make skype nice like PC to PC calls and what not
which is why i guess they dont sell it any more
If they did, I never saw it, and I've looked at the Skype Store since its inception, and I've never seen a web reference to one. I suggest you're confused with something that was a USB device.

I'm not sure what the technical limitation is - probably you're right, that they want to maintain a proprietary interface so their extensible feature set works, some of which you'd lose with a traditional set.

To me, that's very short-sighted. Interoperability is key to the broad adaptation of any technology.

But I can't argue with Skype's modest success. Obviously, it appeals on both cost, and accessibility, to a sector of the market that is not so tied to area codes, dialable numbers, and circuit-switched connections.

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