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Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! in TekSavvy http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21411390 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:08:05 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:08:05 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21429516 Guspaz : Over a decade old too. And more or less completely unsupported by most things these days. Firefox 3 doesn't support it, new hardware doesn't have drivers, Media Player Classic doesn't support it in newer versions (I think)...

I can't think of any good reasons not to be running at least 2000 or XP these days, unless you're so poor you can't afford to spend $200-300 on a newer PC. I was pricing out dual-core computers for screenings that were capable of playing back 720p h.264 content, and I came to $267 with mouse/keyboard (without monitor)...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21429516 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:15:18 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21429312 ragingwolf :

said by Sukunai

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But fortunately all the games I play are old low tech designs that don't even have a problem with 98SE :)
Steel Panthers FTW.

Wow... people still use 98SE nowadays? That OS is like ancient.. :/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21429312 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:25:25 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427466 Sukunai : Thanks Mori, I needed this thread :)

For those interested, I know Mori personally hehe.
I also have a son that's a WoW fan (who just got his expansion as well).

Me, I can't see the attraction of online games. Don't hate em, just don't like em. And certainly can't picture doing ANYthing for several hours every friggin day of the week month after month.

Then again, people think I'm weird for watching so much anime.

Big fan of life here though, not that I have much of one (disabled does that to ya). The most important thing in my day is playing with my wife (no waiting for patches to install before I can play with her either :)).

But fortunately all the games I play are old low tech designs that don't even have a problem with 98SE :)
Steel Panthers FTW.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427466 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:19:11 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21420133 Arbalister : Okay, so for those that requested an alternate login, I'll shut 'em down 00:01 Saturday morning, then.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21420133 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:42:56 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21419820 R0CKY : Realised it when talking with Marc earlier, when he mentioned he was heading to Toronto tomorrow.... Otherwise, I don't get involved in their maintenance scheduling.

Would have said something sooner otherwise... Sorry!

Rocky
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21419820 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:29:50 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21419810 LoKi DarkGod :

said by R0CKY

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FYI: The maintenance window is for Thursday night, Friday morning, not tonight....

Rocky

WEEELLLL den.. whoever wrote your email needs to learn wording.. it says thursday the 13th from 12am-6am.. had someone said that originally I'm sure alot of people, including myself, would have been alot cooler with it.. Thank you for clearing this up!
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Rocky]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21419735 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:15:07 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21418451 Arbalister :

said by Phosis

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PM Sent. Thanks so much for doing this, Arbalister. We really appreciate it.

No problem, you're all set, try it out before midnight, just to be certain. :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21418451 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:16:50 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21417862 Phosis : PM Sent. Thanks so much for doing this, Arbalister. We really appreciate it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21417862 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:29:08 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416952 Arbalister :

said by Ikarasu

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LoTR seems to have a more mature playerbase, I guess thats one of the benefits of not having 10 million people playing the game >_

Now *that* is the understatement of the decade. :-P The LOTRO forums, while they can get pretty hot, don't go up in flames after every little change to the game. :-P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416952 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:48:27 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416904 Ikarasu : Agreed, most of the mmos are pretty simular. Takes a bit more then a name to back up a game though, (Though EA being involved these days usually calls a lot of people in for a boycott :\)

I played LOTRO for a bit... went back to WoW. I guess, I realize I'm addicted to WoW...and while LOTRO could be fun, I don't want to be addicted to 2 games! And I'm a bit of a perfectionist... I like knowing all the inns/outs of games, I cant see myself getting that into LOTRO to do that, so I'm just sticking to WoW (Though with the way blizz has a new outlook on casuals... I'm thinking of quitting soon, the games way too easy now, and it just keeps getting easier...)

LoTR seems to have a more mature playerbase, I guess thats one of the benefits of not having 10 million people playing the game >_ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416904 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:42:10 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416881 Calisto :

said by hector66

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Seriously, this is retarded timing. A little over one day's notice for something that isn't an emergency? You can't tell me the people inside the organization aren't aware of the importance of this day to a large number of their clients (and any other ISP really).

Wow! (no pun intended).. You cannot be serious!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416881 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:39:40 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416814 Arbalister :

said by Ikarasu

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Bah... I played LoTRO for a bit... couldn't get into it.

It probably is a great game... but lets face it, WoW entered the MMO market strong, its got people addicted to it's playstyle, and people don't like change... I think one of the huge reasons the past MMOs have failed, is because people not wiling to part with WoW, except a select few. I think blizz earnings showed that 80-90% of people who quit and put WAR, LOTRO, or AoC down as the reason... have already returned (pre expac).

Just too used to wow :\

WoW had a strong entry because of blizzard.net. They already had large installed base of online gamers. And a large installed base of Warcraft players. It was an advantage that most other companies in the MMO market didn't have.

Turbine has a large installed base of AC, AC2, DDO players. Admittedly not to the degree that Blizzard had, but a good enough base to maintain a 3rd MMO. Lotro is firmly ensconced as the second largest North American MMO - and it's looking at something like a 3rd Game of the Year win with MoM's launch.

WAR and AoC were doomed from the start. :-P WAR because it's an EA product put out by Mythic Entertaiment. If you don't see a problem there, look back at Star Wars Galaxies. One might think that Mythic would be a moderating influence on EA, but..well...I beta'd DaoC, and actually contributed to it's strat guide. Mythic wasn't the most savvy company to ever put out an MMO.

But they *were* much wiser in comparison to Funcom, producers of Age of Conan, whose beta version of AoC was so unstable and bug ridden that launching a beta caused them to postpone the game for more then a year. Funcom has a crappy MMO track record, starting at Abomination ... er ... Anarchy Online - which I was also a tester for ... briefly.

Funny thing is that when I started playing WoW, back in it's beta, I only did so as a filler game waiting for Lotro. Back then there were many, many elements of the game that were clearly lifted from other MMO's such as Asheron's Call 2 and SWG, even EQ. *Now* when we get new people into the LOTRO forums, many of them say things like "stolen from WoW" about features that were a staple in MMO's long before WoW. :-P And of course, the current WoW expansion includes a good few LOTRO innovations. :-P

Personally, the biggest difference between the 2, in my not so humble opinion, is that the graphics are a more cartoon style in WoW, and the storylines are different. Many features in both games cross over. I just like the storyline in Lotro better, and prefer the more realistic, card destroying graphics in LOTRO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416814 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:31:14 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416494 Ikarasu : Bah... I played LoTRO for a bit... couldn't get into it.

It probably is a great game... but lets face it, WoW entered the MMO market strong, its got people addicted to it's playstyle, and people don't like change... I think one of the huge reasons the past MMOs have failed, is because people not wiling to part with WoW, except a select few. I think blizz earnings showed that 80-90% of people who quit and put WAR, LOTRO, or AoC down as the reason... have already returned (pre expac).

Just too used to wow :\]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416494 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:33:16 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416277 The Flash : I think I'll just goto sleep, but I guess I can see how it sucks that your Internet will be down on release.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416277 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:56:24 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21416168 HiVolt : »[WotLK] confidence level for servers thursday

Everyone is anticitpating problems with the launch... So what's the big deal?
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said by LoKi DarkGod

said by TSI Jason

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Well I am going to be playing come midnight, but its because I pay to have redundancy. I could have free internet, but instead I choose to pay a little more so that if one network is undergoing maintenance or having trouble I can switch to another. While internet is not an 'essential' service, is is quickly becoming just that no matter what the rules outline, and in this case if this is a situation that can happen, you may want to consider a back-up like I have! :)

I can't tell you how many times its releived aggrevation for me!

FYI: I'm pretty much addicted to WoW, like Loki I have cleared all content and have been in some of the best guilds in the game, so I know where people are coming from in some respects as new content has not come out in a while.

Loki - if you're really that worried about the possible downtime, PM me and I'll set you up an alternate login on my other DSL wholesaler. Same goes for anyone else. All you'll have to do is change the username/password you use to log in.

I'll offer it for free, for the 13th and 14th, they'll stop working at 11:59pm on the 14th. Just because I like TSI so much.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415964 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:02:10 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415920 Arbalister :

said by LoKi DarkGod

said by morisato

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For those of u who are seriously bent out by it can I suggest a Temp login to a Different Dsl provider? :) I know wow has over 10 million Subscribers... worldwide and all. but oh well :)

Guy, be calm. Read the note from TSI again. They don't say the service is going to be down at all...just that fgor that 12 hour period they are going to be doing maintainance, and you *might* get disconnected. Like, briefly, if at all. It's not the end of the world.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415920 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:53:10 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415861 HiVolt :

said by Arbalister

said by LoKi DarkGod

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I've already started looking for a new ISP. Any company who would take down there service at the same time when the Largest MMO game (probably in history) with such a MASSIVE following is launching there BIGGEST Expansion.. Obviously has very little regard for there subscribers.

Why so serious? Do you really think the game is gonna be playable for 48 hours after launch? Doubt it. You're not missing anything but an enormous lagfest.

And if he thinks any other ISP would respect this launch day over what they have to do on their network, he's seriously mistaken.
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said by LoKi DarkGod

Why so serious? Do you really think the game is gonna be playable for 48 hours after launch? Doubt it. You're not missing anything but an enormous lagfest.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415849 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:41:15 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415828 Arbalister :

said by Ikarasu

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I don't really think people are complaining too much.

For me, WoW has become boring... and I'll be quitting it shortly. They've dumbed down the game so much, that it isnt fun. The ONE thing thats still fun in the game... is racing to max level. It's sort of a contest...see who can be the server first.

With downtime... 6-7 hours worth, that pretty much leaves a big chunk of people out. And this is something that happens once every 2 years... so for some, it's a pretty big deal.

I'd be really annoyed if it happened to me >_ Though... I would understand. I'd probably just get a temp login from another ISP for a month to be sure :D

Change to Lord of the Rings Online. Better game. More quests. Greater storyline. Lifetime subs only $199 (limited time on Mines of Moria release...) Do I work for Turbine? No, but I play one on TV...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415828 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:38:48 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415825 Jahntassa :

said by TSI Gabe

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Like Marc said, the maintenance window is between 12 and 6 but that doesn't mean that it will be down during that whole period. It will be intermittent at most.

Considering the realms are still down after the maintenance yesterday, i'm thinking you may be fairly in the clear. :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415825 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:38:24 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415482 TSI Gabe : Some of us here used to play and some still play WoW. One thing we do know is that every single major patch that they released never made it through properly. The WoW servers would be buggy, down or just simply unable to even login.

Like Marc said, the maintenance window is between 12 and 6 but that doesn't mean that it will be down during that whole period. It will be intermittent at most. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415482 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:28:05 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415391 TSI Marc : The maintenance shouldn't be too long. Maybe a half-hour to an hour of down time is what I'm anticipating. We really do need these upgrades. The total time we'll be there will be longer but as far as down time for everybody it should be fairly straight forward.
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said by Anonnn :

Don't think I can recommend teksavvy to other people now....
this is such a bell move.

Yeah, and Bell would notify you a day before there is some critical maintenance, eh?

Your service would simply not work and you'd have to spend time troubleshooting and calling the drones in india.

Get real...
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Don't think I can recommend teksavvy to other people now....
this is such a bell move.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21415004 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:14:06 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414813 meshif :

quote:
So, for those who don't know the significance of this, it's the next level after the ERX310 routers... This is pretty major and defines a new era in hardware for TSI.

And is it possible to give more details on that "new era" as in the possibility of IPv6 or VDSL or something crazy like that that us TSI geeks dream about?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414813 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:49:46 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414775 R0CKY :

said by RePTiLE4

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I'm a little disappointed there's maintenance Thursday, really wanted to start up WOTLK.

What kind of maintenance are you guys doing Thursday?

I can hope there's very little downtime!

Not sure the entirety of the situation but as far as I know we're going to be adding a new ERX1440 to the mix.... It's where we're going moving forward. So, for those who don't know the significance of this, it's the next level after the ERX310 routers... This is pretty major and defines a new era in hardware for TSI.

Believe we're also adding Gig-E connections 6 & 7 as well (not 100% sure, but I believe this is the case... haven't had a chance to chat with Marc about much of this yet).

Rocky
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414775 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:05:29 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414735 Guspaz : Presumably you use your TekSavvy login on both lines anyhow to do MLPPP. You could switch the second line over to TSI to get the employee discount, and then get a secondary login from Velcom, eBox, Acanac, etc. in order to have the redundancy there.

Actually, eBox is probably your best choice for a secondary login (if they offer such a service) because they're the only one of those ISPs who doesn't have their network core in Toronto. It's in Montreal. If something happens at 151 Front, they'd be unaffected.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414735 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:29:40 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414683 emerald_b : ok... lemme ask you this. Would you rather know in advance that there will be an outage on this date or be in the middle of an instance(dunno if thats the right term) when the outage happens... any outage is going to inconvenience someone. maybe for a game, maybe a last minute project maybe an important email.... point being its gonna be in a pain in the ass for someone. so just get over it already... seriously, I dont get this whole thing... people in my family wanting me to stand in line at midnight with them to protect them from what they figure will be "lots of people" it makes me sad... the game will be there a few hours later, its not gonna go anywhere(unless you have a break in or something)... its not the end of the world. Plus you have no guarantee that all the servers on blizzard's end are going to function correctly on time anyways... you just assume they will...

anyways... that felt really really good to get off my chest. /rant]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414683 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:58:00 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414497 Angelo_ : always blaming the girl eh]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414497 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:47:21 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414492 TSI Jason : LOL, actually the only reason I have Bell, is because I'm unmotivated toward change (because its generally a hassle) and we were on a contract due to the girl who originally moved out (when i moved in) changing the phone line to David's name.

But I guess you could consider the 2 times (maintenance windows) that I've had to change my login over as outages! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414492 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:46:26 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414476 anon :

said by TSI Jason

said by Guspaz

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Psst, Jason's second connection is Sympatico, and only because his roommate forces him to have it :P

And there we have it.

TekSavvy employee's paying for a bell-sympatico account due to outages.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414476 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:40:29 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414474 anon : In a slight change of direction... Thanks for the ADVANCED NOTICE of the incoming Pally-buff to our connection on WotLK release night.

No, seriously. This is what I call good customer service.

I appreciate knowing to expect inconsistent service than to go mad at 1:15am because the magic lights on my modem are suddenly angry over being worked so hard, so late.

I'll just pick up the game Thrusday at lunch and avoid some of the new release stress while I look forward to the next patch's Enhancement Shaman super-buff. We'll be the only class with a special 3D ANIMATED (Storm-Strike) Icon! (Hey, the icon as a buff trick worked on enh shammies last time, right?)

*Nox]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414474 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:39:52 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414354 morisato : i see you Just have a sympatico connection so when You both call in sick to work rocky Cannot see all those wow packets! addicts!

Ps i am surprised this subject Sparked Such a Debate ;0 with only a few wow addicts and a great deal Anti wow people :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414354 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:05:27 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414319 NeoStylez : LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414319 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:53:15 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414301 TSI Jason : I don't think TSI-David would kill me, I'm too good at Rockband for that, plus you can't kill a healer(Me) that keeps your tank(David) alive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414301 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:49:24 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414289 Angelo_ : yet you wont bc your room mate would kill you!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414289 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:47:55 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414251 TSI Jason :

said by Guspaz

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Psst, Jason's second connection is Sympatico, and only because his roommate forces him to have it :P

Well its not true anymore, the contract has expired, so I could move over anytime I want! :o

[Edit]Plus I'm extremely against fixing something clearly seems to work for me so far lol. (Plus I don't want to go through the Bell Guantlet)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414251 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:40:32 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414247 HiVolt :

said by Guspaz

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Psst, Jason's second connection is Sympatico, and only because his roommate forces him to have it :P

LMFAO!!!! BUSTED!
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said by TSI Jason

THANK YOU!!! lol coming from someone AT Teksavvy.. you can understand mine, and others, fustrations..

Got any pointers on backup services? lol I know you cant promote another company in public thread, but IM maybe? So this doesnt happen again.. though it'll be several more years before an xpac launches, so I got time..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414241 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:38:29 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414227 TSI Jason : Well I am going to be playing come midnight, but its because I pay to have redundancy. I could have free internet, but instead I choose to pay a little more so that if one network is undergoing maintenance or having trouble I can switch to another. While internet is not an 'essential' service, it is quickly becoming just that no matter what the rules outline, and in this case if this is a situation that can happen you may want to consider a back-up like I have! :)

I can't tell you how many times its releived aggrevation for me!

FYI: I'm pretty much addicted to WoW, like Loki I have cleared all content and have been in some of the best guilds in the game, so I know where people are coming from in some respects as new content has not come out in a while.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414227 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:34:41 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414094 LoKi DarkGod :

said by hector66

:

I've already made my plan, I'm going to bridge my network from my laptop's wireless and tap into the unprotected network somewhere in my building.

Thanks Mr. Linksys, whoever you are.

The closest Wireless network to me is about 6 blocks from me and I'd have to purchase a wireless card :( I'm hoping to jack into my neighbors Cable Inet connection below me.. even if I have to d/c my dsl modem/router combo and take it down there myself lol

And sorry my post got off topic, but my original point I was trying to make was.. Someone along the line somewhere at Teksavvy had to have realized WotLK launch was the exact same time they were planning on taking down their service, and yet they still thought nothing of it seeing as how big the event is. Seriously, how hard would it have been to have bumped the schedule up a day when someone said something and had it tonight? Not very hard, I'd imagine the stuff for the work is probably sitting in a corner waiting for tomorrow night anyways.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414094 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:08:08 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414058 Ikarasu : I wonder if Mr Linksys is using Teksavvy... if he is, I'll laugh >_> sorry, but it'd be funny!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414058 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:01:07 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414052 hector66 : I've already made my plan, I'm going to bridge my network from my laptop's wireless and tap into the unprotected network somewhere in my building.

Thanks Mr. Linksys, whoever you are.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21414052 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:00:06 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413975 HiVolt :

said by hector66

:

Of course the only reason I'm typing this is because Blizzard's login servers are down which is keeping me from playing WoW right now...
:D

Hehehe.... thank you for proving my point, indirectly... A hundred different things can go wrong and you cannot play WoW...

I already apologized for my outburst, but I still maintain that it's a silly thing to complain about, in the grand scheme of things...
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said by hector66

:

Actually HiVolt, I just vented on a board once, but you're going after every person who has a complaint about the unfortunate timing of this maintenance.

The only person who is raising your blood pressure is you. Stick to another thread with less whining (including mine) and you will feel better.

Of course the only reason I'm typing this is because Blizzard's login servers are down which is keeping me from playing WoW right now...
:D

wow addict :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413961 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:45:06 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413946 hector66 : Actually HiVolt, I just vented on a board once, but you're going after every person who has a complaint about the unfortunate timing of this maintenance.

The only person who is raising your blood pressure is you. Stick to another thread with less whining (including mine) and you will feel better.

Of course the only reason I'm typing this is because Blizzard's login servers are down which is keeping me from playing WoW right now...
:D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413946 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:42:51 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413839 HiVolt : Hey dude, sorry... i just can't grasp how someone can be so addicted to something like this...

I'm usually not the one to troll on these forums, people here know this... But when I see things like this, it kinda gets me going... :D
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said by LoKi DarkGod

:

Actually, I have a Lovely wife (who as I stated also plays WoW) as well as a 10yr old son (who shares his account with his Mother). Just because I spend my time playing World of Warcraft instead of watching football, or some other past time, doesnt mean I have no life.

I hope you let your son outside to play with the other kids...
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said by HiVolt

said by LoKi DarkGod

:

I've been calling around frantic trying to find an ISP that will leave give me an active login and password that I can use immediately, but they are all giving me the BS about 5-9 days to deactivate current DSL and turn theirs on.. Anyone had any luck finding someone?

Are you serious? FRANTIC? wow...

I'm sorry if i come of as an asshole... I just dont get it... It's JUST a game to me...

I think he is that serious....

Me think some people need to pay a visit to the nearest rehab center... ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413818 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:21:06 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413812 LoKi DarkGod :

said by BryceS

:

How can we kill someone who has no life.

Actually, I have a Lovely wife (who as I stated also plays WoW) as well as a 10yr old son (who shares his account with his Mother). Just because I spend my time playing World of Warcraft instead of watching football, or some other past time, doesnt mean I have no life.

Oh and HiVolt, no one is making you read this post, I am simply replying with my opinions, and in a rather polite manner I might add.. I havent bashed anyone, or resorted to name calling, dispite the responces I've gotten.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413812 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:20:08 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413807 HiVolt : Holy shit... go to an internet cafe or something... steal some wireless... frig... stop crying already...

It's a RESIDENTIAL SERVICE that costs $30/month. there is no uptime guarantee whatsoever. They have to do maintenance sometime.

If they did it the day day after release, you'd whine that you couldn't play your brand new game that you just got the day before... sheesh...

Stop raising my blood pressure, lol...
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Try Anac... see if they offer DSL logins. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413798 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:18:29 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413779 BryceS : How can we kill someone who has no life.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413779 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:16:15 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413775 Angelo_ : bah wow =p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413775 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:15:29 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413768 LoKi DarkGod : I have been playing this game as a hardcore raider for years, I have completed ALL content in the game(which most of WoW's population havent even seen), am in THE highest ranked guild on my server, and spend YEARS working to get here. It's not just a game.. it's a hobbie/past time, lifestyle, and yes, even an addiction I admit.

By the time this maintenance was supposed to be over, I would've been well on my way to 73, and instead, I wont have even stepped foot in Northrend. Considering my guild is on a strict schedule to make 80 and get raid ready, this is a big deal to me. Sorry if you casual players cant understand that

Edit: And yes, the servers should be up, and if not, blizzard will be working there butts of to make sure it's at least semi-playable considering THEY are the ones pushing the midnight launch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413768 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:14:34 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413761 HiVolt : Can you even play at midnight? Imagine the hordes of addicts like yourselves all trying to play all at once... Its probably gonna be a lagfest...

Besides, these maintenance events usually dont even last the entire time.
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(Actually getting linux to where I need it to is taking that long anyhow...:P)

Ian]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413728 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:08:23 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413703 HiVolt :

said by LoKi DarkGod

Are you serious? FRANTIC? wow...

I'm sorry if i come of as an asshole... I just dont get it... It's JUST a game to me...
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said by LoKi DarkGod

:

Wednesday Night/Thursday morning is the single most important night for any serious WoW player over the last 2 years.. They HAD to have known when they scheduled this (considering so many of there own employee's play), or at least anytime before they sent out the emails that this MAJOR MMO event was happening that night. They just obviously dont care.

I've already started looking for a new ISP. Any company who would take down there service at the same time when the Largest MMO game (probably in history) with such a MASSIVE following is launching there BIGGEST Expansion.. Obviously has very little regard for there subscribers.

Good luck with finding ANY provider that follows/respects any sort of game/software release schedule.

For you, WOW may be important. for someone else it may be gear of war, team fortress, call of duty, what have you...

You're just being an unreasonable grump.
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said by morisato

:

For those of u who are seriously bent out by it can I suggest a Temp login to a Different Dsl provider? :) I know wow has over 10 million Subscribers... worldwide and all. but oh well :)

I've been calling around frantic trying to find an ISP that will leave give me an active login and password that I can use immediately, but they are all giving me the BS about 5-9 days to deactivate current DSL and turn theirs on.. Anyone had any luck finding someone?
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said by hector66

As this is classified as a residential non-essential service by the CRTC, you should be lucky you get ANY notification. Also, this work is being done during the standard maintenance window. If your work was mission critical during this time, you should NOT be on this service and instead on a dedicated line with an SLA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413673 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:01:14 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413640 DJ R :

said by hector66

:

Sounds like an addict in denial :P

I didn't play WoW since August 08 already :P and my friends gone back into it and they did tried to get me back into it too.

They failed. I got better things to do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413640 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:55:52 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413627 hector66 : Sounds like an addict in denial :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413627 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:54:13 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413602 DJ R : I'm not worry about WoW anymore... Because I stopped playing or raiding!
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And yes, we are nerds. So f*cking what? : ) If your client base are nerds, cater to the nerds! That's who pays yer bills yo! (mockingly Federline-esque, I don't actually talk that way LOL) ooooo, that's nerdy too huh : )]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413329 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:10:28 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413293 LoKi DarkGod : You may call it "Just a game" but I've already put $400 into my machine as well as my Wife's and am still planning on forking out another $400 for 2 copies of the game(1 CE and 1 Regular), and the last few things for our systems, JUST for this expantion. I've been playing this game since just after launch and power leveled my current main in under 2 weeks realtime from 0-70 when BC launched..

Wednesday Night/Thursday morning is the single most important night for any serious WoW player over the last 2 years.. They HAD to have known when they scheduled this (considering so many of there own employee's play), or at least anytime before they sent out the emails that this MAJOR MMO event was happening that night. They just obviously dont care.

I've already started looking for a new ISP. Any company who would take down there service at the same time when the Largest MMO game (probably in history) with such a MASSIVE following is launching there BIGGEST Expansion.. Obviously has very little regard for there subscribers.

Can you imagine if you were a cable provider who decided they needed to do maintenance on Superbowl Sunday? (and yes, for hardcore WoW player's, this is the same thing.. biggest day of the year)

Edit: BTW I came to DSL reports to find DSL providers in my area and decided to come in here to see if any other WoW players had anyting to say about this "inconvience" as they are calling it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413293 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:04:57 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413212 anon : Well at least I no longer feel compelled to join the horde of unwashed masses at future shops midnight opening

Still sucks I took the day off work thou ;(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21413212 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:51:09 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412814 Ikarasu : I don't really think people are complaining too much.

For me, WoW has become boring... and I'll be quitting it shortly. They've dumbed down the game so much, that it isnt fun. The ONE thing thats still fun in the game... is racing to max level. It's sort of a contest...see who can be the server first.

With downtime... 6-7 hours worth, that pretty much leaves a big chunk of people out. And this is something that happens once every 2 years... so for some, it's a pretty big deal.

I'd be really annoyed if it happened to me >_ Though... I would understand. I'd probably just get a temp login from another ISP for a month to be sure :D ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412814 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:47:32 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412626 anon : I completely agree with u hivolt... even my father is going to get it tommorow night at 12... If there needs to be maintence, it needs to get done, regardless of games that come out :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412626 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:18:12 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412601 HiVolt :

said by hector66

Wow, some of you are seriously a bit too much... It's a friggin game.

Some of you bitch when there is unscheduled emergency work. Then others bitch that the notice you've been given does not jive with your schedule. Give me a break...

Do you think Bell, Rogers, Shaw, Telus, etc would give a flying fig about your gameplay? The service would simply go down while they do their maintenance.

I'm pretty sure 12am-6am is an industry wide accepted network maintenance window.

Lighten up people. :mad:
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j/k but Wow is down..at least for me.

Ian]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412506 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:58:45 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412477 HiVolt : HAHAHAHA... suckers!!!!
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I have wotlk already installed... just have to wait till midnight to get a CD key :(

I shoulda got one of you eastern people to pick me up an extra copy, so I can get the key 3 hours early!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412433 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:46:48 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412252 JunjiHiroma : I just play offline games like mugen and rock band 2 to Pass the time or I goto sleep early]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412252 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:17:37 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412242 moozh84 : Seriously, World of Warcraft is the most popular online game, this service interruption is a bad omen.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412242 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:15:55 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412191 RePTiLE4 : I'm a little disappointed there's maintenance Thursday, really wanted to start up WOTLK.

What kind of maintenance are you guys doing Thursday?

I can hope there's very little downtime!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412191 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:07:50 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412155 iamdrumming : You guys are all friggin' nerds! :) jk]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412155 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:02:45 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412150 TSI Jason : LOL.

Well, I guess the only thing we can do in this case(as I play WoW myself) is to change out sleeping patterns in the next couple days so you can play WotLK after the maintenance!

That is clearly my plan! :)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412150 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:01:37 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412084 ragingwolf : Seriously... I just got the notice in the mail too... impeccable timing :p

I guess there are clearly some Teksavvy folks not playing WOW. Time to whip out some "Recruit-a-friend" invites so they can conveniently call in sick :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21412084 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:50:04 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411878 Arbalister :

said by morisato

:

come on teksavvy could you pick a worse night to do maitence woltk release night? :0 Thats just Plain evil! what are u in league with Arthas?

I don't see a problem...it's not like they're doing this in a week when Mines of Moria launches. :-)

Besides...I'm all patched up for Lotro:MoM already anyhow...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411878 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:14:49 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411607 DrZEUS : hey at least this time the email was in english first which didn't lead me to delete it at quick glance thinking it was spam! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411607 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:32:48 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411555 Thislilfishy : Ouch, going to be some unhappy souls that night. Fortunately I opted to get the expansion for christmas, as well as being in the process of converting to linux...so no WoW for me anyhow.

Ian]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411555 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:23:37 EDT Re: Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411474 kewlkeed : LMAO That IS evil... I like it! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411474 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:07:30 EDT Maitence on WOLTK release? FO PA! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21411390 morisato : come on teksavvy could you pick a worse night to do maitence woltk release night? :0 Thats just Plain evil! what are u in league with Arthas?
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