utahluge
join:2004-10-14
Draper, UT
 ·Comcast
| reply to pspcrazy
Re: Pull them off
said by pspcrazy  :My site is fairly large and when we were ddos'd we simply couldn't do anything but pay 2-3k more for something we shouldn't need. ...and you all want bill-by-the-byte...
Ok, maybe not all. BUT, I have been saying for quite some time now. People didn't believe me when I said that DDOS would be a problem with bill-by-the-byte. The above quote is only a sample of what I was talking about. I wish the report would have asked about how many times their sites have been DDOS attacked and how much it cost them.
Maybe now some of you will wake up (especially after being attacked). Its the combination of customers that cannot reach your site, the cost of your bandwidth, and then your reputation (word of mouth (or type) is very strong). In all reality, a simple virus could bring down unprepared sites/companies.
Education people. I admit, I did not educate my brother well enough. Just the other day I was helping him with his computer and when I realized his computer IP was an external, I stopped to check the firewall. Guess what? His firewall was turned OFF! I stopped everything I was doing to turn it on and only allow minimal exceptions. I even went as far as to give him a spare router/firewall I had lying around.
ISP's shouldn't be the 'police' of their users. BUT, if they offered their users opt-IN to spam protection, that would be wonderful! Just throttle the user and have an auto-generated email saying what is going on. That way they are not completely cut-off and then the ISP can either open it back up or assist (tell where to go to get help) the customer based on what the customer wants. |
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
 ·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
 ·Embarq
| said by utahluge :said by pspcrazy :My site is fairly large and when we were ddos'd we simply couldn't do anything but pay 2-3k more for something we shouldn't need. ...and you all want bill-by-the-byte... Ok, maybe not all. BUT, I have been saying for quite some time now. People didn't believe me when I said that DDOS would be a problem with bill-by-the-byte. The above quote is only a sample of what I was talking about. I wish the report would have asked about how many times their sites have been DDOS attacked and how much it cost them. Hosting providers already have usage-based billing, and most have an exception process for denial of service attacks where the traffic is excluded from your bill.
The expense that pspcrazy is likely talking about is a DDoS filtering service like ProxySheild from Gigeservers. |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA
·DSL EXTREME
| With the addition of the bandwith that gets used up in the first hour of the attack, for me with a gigabit port it adds up fast :| Personally I hate caps because it'll cost people that are bots, and they'll never know since it's mostly non technical people who become bots in the first place, so they won't hit their caps either way. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by pspcrazy :With the addition of the bandwith that gets used up in the first hour of the attack, for me with a gigabit port it adds up fast :| Personally I hate caps because it'll cost people that are bots, and they'll never know since it's mostly non technical people who become bots in the first place, so they won't hit their caps either way. It's pretty easy for an ISP to tell if a user is a zombie. While I doubt an ISP will patrol this on their own, if a user suddenly uses 10x the bandwidth of last month, it's pretty trivial to figure out why when they call in asking what their overage charge is for. |
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