TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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1 edit |  Modern broadband speeds from IBEC
»www.ibec.net/pdf/20081014.pdf
Price is right. Speed not so good. |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | Here's all you need to know:
"$70 million in loans from the government"
When free money is involved there will always be an organization spring up to squander it. |
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rmmoody
join:2001-02-15
Leawood, KS | reply to TKJunkMail
It is slow, but it beats dialup. And, in some remote rural locations it may be the only way some folks will ever get broadband. Too far for DSL, and no one else is going to drop coax or fiber in such sparse areas. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to RadioDoc
A loan is not free money. Having said that, I do agree that governmental loans tend to increase the odds that the borrower may not be as critical on spending as appropriate. |
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jay_rm
join:2002-04-12
Netville
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said by rmmoody  :It is slow, but it beats dialup. And, in some remote rural locations it may be the only way some folks will ever get broadband. Too far for DSL, and no one else is going to drop coax or fiber in such sparse areas. That's what wireless is for...
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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wonder if a power company could get into FTTH, they already own the poles so permitting would be minimal one would think. and of course operations cost would be lower since well atleast the electric costs for them would be well below market value.
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
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said by jay_rm :said by rmmoody :It is slow, but it beats dialup. And, in some remote rural locations it may be the only way some folks will ever get broadband. Too far for DSL, and no one else is going to drop coax or fiber in such sparse areas. That's what wireless is for... And if wireless doesn't serve the area? |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| said by Cheese :And if wireless doesn't serve the area? Then expand it to serve the area... You could expand the wireless coverage for a fraction of the cost of building a BPL network. |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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| said by james :said by Cheese :And if wireless doesn't serve the area? Then expand it to serve the area... You could expand the wireless coverage for a fraction of the cost of building a BPL network. And since you think they should expand, do you plan on helping them with the cost? |
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JinTX
@myvzw.com | reply to jay_rm
**IF** you have wireless coverage. I'm in rural Texas.
We are less than 2 miles from DSL, and they will not bring it any closer. Verizon wireless is ... OK - on a good day, I may hit up to 100K, which beats 48K. |
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JinTX
@myvzw.com | reply to james
Well obviously Verizon and Sprint don't share that opinion, or they would be expanding in our area, as well as many others. |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to openbox9
Oh please. A government loan for stuff like this is essentially a blank check with no strings. When have you ever seen one of them 'called'?
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| reply to Cheese
said by Cheese :And since you think they should expand, do you plan on helping them with the cost? I'm under the impression that they're already getting taxpayer money in order to install a technology that has failed time and time again. Sure it's a loan, but guess what, they're going to fail and go bankrupt and none of the money will be repaid.
I'd rather pay twice as much in taxes and have it spent well than pay half as much in taxes and have it all wasted. |
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rmmoody
join:2001-02-15
Leawood, KS
| reply to james
Wireless is certainly an option. How well does it perform in more rugged parts of the country where line of sight is not always there? The REC's built out electrical distributions in the 40's and 50's. That infrastructure is still there, has been maintained and grown in the decades since. Seems to me if it can be used to deliver broadband at a reasonable cost, then it should be considered. Having said that, the interference issues MUST be worked out. Just my two cents. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to RadioDoc
A loan is a loan and not free money. Have you seen a RUS loan not repaid? If so, what was the outcome, or lack of? |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
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said by Cheese :said by jay_rm :said by rmmoody :It is slow, but it beats dialup. And, in some remote rural locations it may be the only way some folks will ever get broadband. Too far for DSL, and no one else is going to drop coax or fiber in such sparse areas. That's what wireless is for... And if wireless doesn't serve the area? You usually have to build wireless, T-1s, or fiber into the area to backhaul the BPL traffic anyway because BPL can't do long haul. This is for rural areas, so T-1 costs are going to be outrageous. The only fiber this rural area will see is Metamucil. That leaves wireless. So, do you mess with BPL feedpoints, repeaters, and electrically dirty lines, or just install wireless and be done with it? |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to TKJunkMail
now now there is plenty of Rural fiber, and sometimes the farmer finds it with his loader when digging a new drainage trench. =)
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bbprovider
@cableone.net | reply to Kearnstd
Check out Jackson Energy Authority. They are doing FTTH...
»www.bbpmag.com/2008issues/oct08/···shot.pdf |
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