The idea is good, reduce traffic and bandwidth usages

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The idea is good, reduce traffic and bandwidth usages

... this is good for users *and* providers.

Problem is, can they resist the urge to keep their greedy little paws off? I doubt it. I expect they will want to provision in filters, blocks, QoS etc which will essentially wreck the whole point, and force users back to un-gimped P2P applications.
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permalink · 2008-11-13 18:08:40 ·

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Re: The idea is good, reduce traffic and bandwidth usages

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Will ISP executives be able to resist impulses to charge customers more for prioritized P2P?

Highly doubtful. I am envisioning ridiculously priced tiers for "favored" traffic such as the above referenced. They're already ~~fucking consumers up the ass~~ reaping maxium profits by double, and, in some cases, triple dipping on overage fees. This latest development will enable an even more gluttonous approach.

permalink · 2008-11-13 18:31:11 ·

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said by KrK

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and force users back to un-gimped P2P applications.

Maybe that threat will keep them honest?

Is P4P an open standard? Will P2P client authors be able to create P4P clients?

I downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 a couple weeks ago. I left my computer on all weekend, serving 16 copies for the 2 I downloaded. Occasionally I looked at the peers that were connecting to me. They were from New Zealand, China, Brazil.

That didn't seem too efficient when, I bet, they could have used distance to choose better peer arrangements.

Mark

permalink · 2008-11-13 18:33:55 · Print ·

SilverSurfer join:2007-08-19	Re: The idea is good, reduce traffic and bandwidth usages said by amigo_boy : said by KrK : and force users back to un-gimped P2P applications. Maybe that threat will keep them honest? You mean in the same manner that ISPs are so "honest"? LMAO. You're living in a dream world.
	permalink · 2008-11-13 19:26:30 · Print ·

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said by amigo_boy

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Maybe that threat will keep them honest?

I think they'll roll out P4P as the "Supported" peer to peer standard and then declare the "old" P2P as a violation of TOS, etc and therefore justify "Network management techniques" to block/filter/reset "old school" P2P. Problem is, almost certainly the "new" peer to peer standard will come with built in baggage like DRM or etc
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permalink · 2008-11-13 23:58:07 · Print ·

pbarrow Premium join:2003-09-16 Montgomery, AL	Seems to me it would take away their excuse for higher prices and bandwidth caps and overage charges. I won't hold my breath on that happening.
	permalink · 2008-11-13 21:33:20 ·

tad2020 join:2007-07-17 Orange, CA	Seems like it would have been easier if the ISP would provide a DB to users of if their IP ranges and the cost (ie. hops, distance). Current client apps would just need to favor ranges their ISP says are in-network and closer.
	permalink · 2008-11-14 14:58:41 ·

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