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<description><![CDATA[tad2020 posted : Seems like it would have been easier if the ISP would provide a DB to users of if their IP ranges and the cost (ie. hops, distance). Current client apps would just need to favor ranges their ISP says are in-network and closer.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:58:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[KrK posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1236971" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1236971');">amigo_boy</a>:</small><br><br>Maybe that threat will keep them honest?</div>I think they'll roll out P4P as the "Supported" peer to peer standard and then declare the "old" P2P as a violation of TOS, etc and therefore justify "Network management techniques" to block/filter/reset "old school" P2P.  Problem is, almost certainly the "new" peer to peer standard will come with built in baggage like DRM or etc<br><small>--<br>"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:58:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[pbarrow posted : Seems to me it would take away their excuse for higher prices and bandwidth caps and overage charges.<br><br>I won't hold my breath on that happening.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:33:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SilverSurfer1 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1236971" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1236971');">amigo_boy</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/129458" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=129458');">KrK</a>:</small><br><br>and force users back to un-gimped P2P applications.<br> </div>Maybe that threat will keep them honest?<br><br> </div>You mean in the same manner that ISPs are so "honest"?  LMAO. You're living in a dream world.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:26:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[amigo_boy posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/129458" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=129458');">KrK</a>:</small><br><br>and force users back to un-gimped P2P applications.<br> </div>Maybe that threat will keep them honest?<br><br>Is P4P an open standard? Will P2P client authors be able to create P4P clients?<br><br>I downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 a couple weeks ago. I left my computer on all weekend, serving 16 copies for the 2 I downloaded. Occasionally I looked at the peers that were connecting to me. They were from New Zealand, China, Brazil.<br><br>That didn't seem too efficient when, I bet, they could have used distance to choose better peer arrangements.<br><br>Mark]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:33:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SilverSurfer1 posted :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Will ISP executives be able to resist impulses to charge customers more for prioritized P2P?<hr></blockquote><br><br>Highly doubtful.  I am envisioning ridiculously priced tiers for "favored" traffic such as the above referenced.  They're already <strike>fucking consumers up the ass</strike> reaping maxium profits by double, and, in some cases, triple dipping on overage fees.  This latest development will enable an even more gluttonous approach.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:31:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[KrK posted : ... this is good for users *and* providers.<br><br>Problem is, can they resist the urge to keep their greedy little paws off?  I doubt it.  I expect they will want to provision in filters, blocks, QoS etc which will essentially wreck the whole point, and force users back to un-gimped P2P applications.<br><small>--<br>"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:08:40 EDT</pubDate>
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