Webmail now has adverts? in Rogers

Webmail now has adverts? in Rogers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21426474 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:08:48 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:08:48 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21717982 rudeboy24 : i noticed that the day after i posted this screen shot.
»Re: Webmail now has adverts?

in the section i highlighted now it says "Your Rogers Yahoo! account includes Mail".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21717982 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:40:48 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21717275 anon : So it looks like Rogers/Yahoo is monitoring this thread and selectively removing all evidence of them offering Rogers Yahoo Email *Plus* to customers. However, there are STILL several pages out there where they are actively promoting an ad free email environment.

I have found another page on an official Rogers Yahoo! site that offers (in a promotional sign-up site) an ad-free email environment to all Lite and above tiers.

Ad-Free Email
We've removed all graphical advertisements from the Rogers Yahoo! Mail pages, allowing you to do what you need to do without distractions.

Ha!!! Am I going to make it easy for them by posting the URLs like I posted the URL that they corrected earlier? Nope.

I'll let individual people get lured in by the false promises, then get upset and have a really negative experience with Rogers that will potentially permanently impact their bottom line when those customers cancel their services.

Shame on you Rogers. I've already cancelled premium TV services in retaliation to these ads. I hope they are worth the extra $20 a month you are losing from me.

- Nosey Bugger]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21717275 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:40:16 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21645581 anon : Sorry I forgot to give you the migrate or switch address

»ca.promos.yahoo.com/switch/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21645581 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:12:36 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21645536 anon : Thats what I did,

Yahoo has a feature that migrates all your contacts and emails.

I migrated all 5 of my families rogers accounts over to yahoo.

The second I find a reasonable broadband supplier I am gone from rogers. Now that my email is no longer dependent on them I can take advantage of all the free offers of the first few months at reduced rates.

Technically I can move every few months now whenever one of the services tries to wooo a new client. No commitments from me anymore, I will go to whoever is the cheapest and as soon as I find a a few months cheaper I will move again.

Hear that rogers? you have to work to try and earn my business now, no more free ride.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21645536 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:46:43 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21624234 elwoodblues : And here is the spin

quote:
"We've heard from less than 1 per cent of our customers about this," said spokesperson Nancy Cottenden

Just like 2% of the users are ruining it for everyone, so lets throttle everyone and put on caps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21624234 Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:27:38 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21614704 Heresy : Is there any way to migrate Rogers Yahoo email to a Yahoo only account?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21614704 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:41:57 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21607754 anon : As I said before, I cancelled my cell phone service in protest.

Next week I get my new dish so after over 25 years I will no longer be using Rogers cable for TV.

Now all I need is to find a new internet provider and my move away from Rogers will be complete.

I pay Yahoo for mail plus now and I have unlinked my rogers account. The only reason I was paying the higher cable fees was because I loved having Yahoo for free. This is now gone and I can keep my Yahoo mail plus when I change providers. All in all that is probably a better idea anyways because I no longer like the idea of being bound to any one provider. They are all greedy and from here on I am going to support the smaller companies instead.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21607754 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:27:50 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554558 sbrook : Those will indeed work]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554558 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:39:35 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554275 anon : sbrook, one question if I may? I have been using Rogers yahoo mail for so long that I have forgotten the pop3 and
SMTP. Do you know if this is correct or if there is a new one?

incoming Mail (POP3) Server: pop.broadband.rogers.com
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server: smtp.broadband.rogers.com ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554275 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:44:50 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554187 anon : Thanks sbrook, I will give it try :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554187 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:29:02 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554164 sbrook : For security, it's hard to beat Pegasus. »www.pmail.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554164 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:25:17 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554096 anon : Thanks Robrr :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554096 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:14:38 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554065 Robrr : Any of the email clients you suggested will work just fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554065 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:10:50 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554011 anon : I was told if I use a email program to get my mail the ads won't show. Problem is I don't know which program to select,
which is the safest to use. Thunderbird, Vista Windows Mail, Opera. there are so many. Are any of you using a email program now since they added all the ads? If so I would love to know which are the most secure. I am fed up with all the ads on my rogers yahoo mail.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21554011 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:02:18 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21494580 rudeboy24 : if you look in the members centre it says premium mail ..is that what they used to call yahoo's "Yahoo! Mail Plus"? so rogers customers have Yahoo! Mail Plus.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21494580 Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:12:41 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21489759 Robrr : Nothing saying they aren't allowed to take that attitude. Same way there isn't anything saying that they wont be out $55/month by the end of next week. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21489759 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:59:16 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21489326 elwoodblues : In other words... we don't care]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21489326 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:27:25 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21488927 Robrr : Received another email from Rogers:

Dear (deleted name),

We apologize for the delay in responding to your email. We are currently receiving higher email volume than normal, and are attempting to answer all email as quickly as possible in the order they arrive.

We understand your frustration and apologize for any inconvenience.

As our intention is to always improve the level of service we provide and we thank you for providing us with the details of your concerns with our Rogers Webmail. By reviewing your email and the details of your account, we can identify areas for future improvement.

We have escalated your email to the Office of the President. An Operational Assistant will attempt to call you within 3 business days to
discuss this issue with you. Please refer to case number Case C#######

Alternatively, you can feel free to call in to our Office of the President at 1-888-764-3771. You will need to ask for Hi-Speed Technical Support and then ask to be transferred to the Office of the President.

We apologize for any delays in the meantime.

If you have any further questions or comments regarding our service, please fill out the online form on our Customer Support page listed below or contact us by phone at 1-888-288-4663.

Sincerely,
Alex M.
Rogers Hi-Speed Internet
Electronic Support Group

Interesting to see that they are still looking at this issue. Going to wait till Friday to see if I get my phone call. If not I will be calling Friday before 5pm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21488927 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:12:43 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484314 wobbie15 : Ya, I broke-down last night and paid the 20 bucks to make the ads go away.

Right after I called Rogers Wireless and cancelled my cell phone which I had for 6 years at a cost of 34 bucks per month. I am going to go with PC Mobile pay as you go.

I was also thinking of getting Rogers Home Phone, but they can forget about that now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484314 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:55:03 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484250 Robrr : They should look at dropping their internet for another provider.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484250 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:44:40 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21482591 Sempronius :

said by KamWest :

Rogers did not win because at the same time I canceled my 35 dollar per month cell phone.

Cancel your services, that is the only way your voice will be heard.

Friends of mine in Brampton attempted to cancel their cells phones with Rogers and Rogers would allow them, saying they were on contract until December 2009. If they cancelled Rogers would charge them $200.00 for breaking the contract. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21482591 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:32:17 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21479973 anon : I ponied up the 20 bucks per year for mail plus with no ads. Rogers did not win because at the same time I canceled my 35 dollar per month cell phone. I only kept it for emergencies and I figured if they nickel and dime me then it was time to take some of my dimes back.

Cancel your services, that is the only way your voice will be heard.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21479973 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:46:59 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21479903 elwoodblues :

said by Craiger :

Good ole Rogers, the just recently changed the wording on this link to remove the 4th point about an ad free webmail experience:

help.yahoo.com/l/ca/rogers/mail/···-44.html

I copy/pasted it in to my complain with the CCTS. It was listed on their site when I ordered their service, I expect them to continue to offer it as they never let their customers out of contact committments.

I'm going to play devils advocate here...

Rogers has some very good lawyers on staff that write these contracts. They are VERY one sided.

Essentially Rogers can do what the F they want, and you have no say. In fact if you read the TOS, they don't even have to provide you with service , and you stil have to pay them.

Good luck, I suspect this is going NOWHERE]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21479903 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:32:05 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21477978 anon : Good ole Rogers, the just recently changed the wording on this link to remove the 4th point about an ad free webmail experience:

help.yahoo.com/l/ca/rogers/mail/···-44.html

I copy/pasted it in to my complain with the CCTS. It was listed on their site when I ordered their service, I expect them to continue to offer it as they never let their customers out of contact committments.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21477978 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:22:17 EDT Angry about ads on Rogers Yahoo email http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21467774 Sempronius : Ellen Roseman invites you to have your say on her website

»www.ellenroseman.com/?p=244#comments]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21467774 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:36:15 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21463945 anon : I received the identical form letter response to my complaint letter.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21463945 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:30:32 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21463588 anon : Just received this from Rogers......

Dear subscriber,

We apologize for the delay in responding to your email. We are
currently receiving higher email volume than normal, and are attempting
to answer all email as quickly as possible in the order they arrive.

We understand your frustration and apologize for any inconvenience.

As our intention is to always improve the level of service we provide
and we thank you for providing us with the details of your concerns with
our Rogers Webmail. By reviewing your email and the details of your
account, we can identify areas for future improvement.

We have escalated your email to the Office of the President. An
Operational Assistant will attempt to call you within 24 hours to
discuss this issue with you. Please refer to case number C5170131.

We apologize for any delays in the meantime.

If you have any further questions or comments regarding our service,
please fill out the online form on our Customer Support page listed
below or contact us by phone at 1-888-288-4663.

Regards,
Shoban S.
Rogers Hi-Speed Internet
Electronic Support Group]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21463588 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:22:44 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21460572 anon :

said by Sempronius

:

Not that I'm taking sides with Roges, however, what many of you don't realize, is that, as a subscriber to Rogers HiSpeed, you're not paying for the use of Rogers Yahoo! webmail. Webmail is included free-of-charge.

I have to disagree here... Rogers Yahoo! has advertised the Yahoo Plus mail benefits. if it were FREE yahoo mail, we would not have access to POP3, throw-away email addresses and more.

In fact, have a look at this page where Rogers and Yahoo! themselves ADVERTISE that their mail service is AD-FREE:

»help.yahoo.com/l/ca/rogers/mail/···-44.html

"Enjoy an uncluttered Mail experience, with no graphical ads"

There are plenty of more examples out there if you care to look for them.

I'm not taking sides... I'm just sayin...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21460572 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:22:44 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21459886 Robrr : Sent an email into Rogers about this tonight(see below), have to wait and see what their reply is:

Dear Sir or Madam;

I am emailing you with regards to the recent changes to the Rogers Yahoo Webmail.

I would like to express my utter disgust with the recent addition of advertising frames to the Rogers Yahoo! Webmail service. As a customer of Rogers Hi Speed Internet Extreme I am paying Rogers $54.95/month every month for this service. This is a premium service - and as a premium service subscriber I should not be subjected to any form of advertising. This is not a service such as Hotmail or GMail where the service is provided for free and relies on the advertising to be able to provide this service so I cannot fathom why this is now the case with Rogers Yahoo mail.

As a paying customer of this service, I would like a full explanation as to why this was implemented. The addition of these advertisements are of absolutely no value to me and I am not seeing anything returned to me as a result of the extra revenues being generated by this advertising.

Regards,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21459886 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:13:27 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21452489 rbrohman :

said by biznatch11

said by SL2 :

Greasemonkey+Platypus toolbar will get rid of any extra space and pretty much let you customize any webpage.

Will this remove the box completely, so that my main window is stretched the full width of my browser? I can get Platypus to remove the add, but I'm left with the blank box. Perhaps you'd be able to post your greasemonkey script?

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21452489 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:05:27 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21451899 Sempronius :

said by sbrook

:

This is a part of what DPI is for ... to target the advertising.

Exactly. And as Bell also uses DPI, it wouldn't suprise me if Bell and Microsoft may follow in the steps of Rogers and Yahoo!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21451899 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:12:23 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21451545 sbrook : It's still got Rogers name; I pay my bill to Rogers; Rogers includes email as a part of the service, however it is branded. This is a part of what DPI is for ... to target the advertising.

So, the complaints still go to Rogers even if they deny that we pay for it. After all, Rogers Yahoo! give us Launchcast Plus as opposed to Launchcast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21451545 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:00:03 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21451011 Sempronius : Not that I'm taking sides with Roges, however, what many of you don't realize, is that, as a subscriber to Rogers HiSpeed, you're not paying for the use of Rogers Yahoo! webmail. Webmail is included free-of-charge. You are paying only for HiSpeed service. Rogers does not provide you with mail service. Rogers provides you with access to the Internet for a monthly fee, Yahoo! has included free-of-charge the use of webmail service and other services, including Flickr, as per the co-branded amalgamation between Rogers and Yahoo! in 2004.

In mid 2008 Rogers send out newsletters to all subscribers announcing that there would be changes to the name brand, i.e. Rogers Yahoo! now changed to Rogers HiSpeed. While certain aspects of Rogers and Yahoo! remain co-branded, they each maintain their own separate identity. Your HiSpeed Internet service is provided by Rogers, webmail is included free-of-charge by Yahoo! (the co-branded aspect of Rogers Yahoo!)

In terms of dealing with the recent advertisements that Rogers and Yahoo! have jointly introduced to the Rogers Yahoo! mail service, Outlook Express / Windows Mail is an option for dealing with these in-line advertisements; as well, the use of an alternate web based email providers, such as, Windows Live Hotmail, Gmail, GMX.com, Yahoo! whereby you pay a yearly fee and avoid in-line advertisements altogether. You have an email address for life and not have the added concern of changing email addresses should you terminate your service with your ISP.

Everyone is lashing out at Rogers and fails to realize that this decision to introduce advertising to the Rogers Yahoo! mail service is a joint decision between Rogers and Yahoo! Rogers is not entirely at to blame. Yahoo! has to share the blunt of the blame. Rogers provides only to the customer a connection to the Internet, Yahoo! provides free-of-charge your web mail and other services within the Yahoo! domain.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21451011 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:20:22 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21449534 biznatch11 :

said by SL2 :

As mentioned previously by anon23424, Adblock added to Mozilla Firefox removes the advertising on the right hand side bar but a large blank unusable area still takes up the message viewing area of your screen each time you check a new message.

Greasemonkey+Platypus toolbar will get rid of any extra space and pretty much let you customize any webpage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21449534 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:05:34 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21449462 biznatch11 : Yes!!! Everyone get Firefox then get the add-ons Adblock Plus. For the next step also get Greasemonkey+Platypus toolbar. And if you want to go one more also get NoScript. Spend few minutes learning these and you will never see ads on the internet again. Even just using adblock will get rid of most of them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21449462 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:49:55 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21449111 Robrr : For now, gonna let my wallet do the talking here soon enough :)

It will be one of the reasons I mention when they ask me why]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21449111 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:39:56 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21448879 Sempronius : Ran into my neighbor this evening who, by the way, works in Sales for Rogers.

Approached him on the topic of why Rogers has taken to plastering subscriber's inbox with adverts. His reply, Because they can. And it's a great marketing opportunity for Rogers. Because a few people are complaining doesn't mean that Rogers is going to bring an end to an otherwise lucrative deal.

Sadly, you'll all have to contend with adverts in your Rogers Yahoo! Inbox. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21448879 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:56:16 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21447157 anon : yeah, sorry, typo - you're right - $20.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21447157 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:19:49 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21446727 anon : I just paid 19.99 USD and I followed your link, it also says 19.99.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21446727 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:55:50 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21446120 anon : »overview.mail.yahoo.com/enhancem···mailplus

You can get yahoo plus for $12 per year. I wonder how loudly we'll need to complain to get Rogers to "comp" that charge? I'm betting their "retention" team is going to be getting quite a few calls....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21446120 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:09:29 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21446013 anon : I was soooooooooooo infuriated by these ads. I installed a greasemonkey script and that took care of them on one computer, but I check my email in lots of places.

So long story short... I purchased a Yahoo Pro account dor $20USD per year.

Then I looked at my Rogers bill and cancelled everything I deemed non essential. I cut my bill in half by cancelling extra chanels and my cell phone. I also downgraded to express.

So instead of making tiny bits of money on ads Rogers has now lost half my business.

If everyone does the same we will hit them in the pocketbook and they will reverse their decision quickly.

JOIN IN AND LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD, CALL THEM TO CANCEL SOME SERVICES AND MAKE SURE THE PERSON ON THE LINE UNDERSTANDS WHY YOU DID IT.

Lets keep track who else cancels some or all services. Cut and paste the following and keep adding your name.

1. Kamwest - cut rogers bill in half
2. Next Name
3. Next Name
4. and so on]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21446013 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:49:36 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21442085 Stewy :

said by elwoodblues

:

I'm using Servage, a European based company that costs me $8.10/month.

There are limits but they are so high it's a joke

wow

for $99/year or $8.30/month, I'm using newsguy I have something like 200Megs with 4 email, SSL, pop and web. It also comes with 50 Gigs of NNTP per month that rolls over :)
--
It's all... part of the plan.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21442085 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:16:16 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441629 elwoodblues : No Graphical ads, but nobody says anything about TEXT ads]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441629 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:52:29 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441624 Sempronius :

said by kwalish

:

Who exactly thought this was a good idea?

Rogers and Yahoo! jointly are responsible for advertising content in your premium webmail.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441624 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:50:45 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441607 elwoodblues : I'm using Servage, a European based company that costs me $8.10/month.

There are limits but they are so high it's a joke]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441607 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:48:30 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441577 kwalish : Well gee, isn't that wonderful? It's just like that premium webmail except... Rogers is making money off me every time I view an email message via their advertising, and annoying the hell out of me with animated ads that won't go away, and using up some of that precious bandwidth they do so want us to conserve. Who exactly thought this was a good idea? It's certainly not making me feel any better about Rogers. In fact I would have to say that it's doing the exact opposite. It's almost as if they've finally become self-aware of the oligarchy they hold with the other telecom corporations in Canada and figured they could stop hiding their contempt for their customers now.

I don't suppose anyone knows of any broadband ISPs in St. John's that aren't Bell Aliant or Rogers? Probably not, but hey, might as well ask.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441577 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:44:19 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441431 Sempronius : I'm curious, if subscriber's to Yahoo!.com and Yahoo!.ca have a premium membership, are they, too, subjected to advertisements within their premium subscription to webmail?

Footnote: I've just answered my own question

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441431 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:21:06 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441393 Sempronius :

said by kwalish

:

It's distracting, and needling away at my bandwidth cap.

Good point. Excuse me for your saying this, but it warrants being said, as the shit hit the fan when Bell began throttling wholesale customers and customer's left in droves, so, too, the same treatment be given Rogers for this latest action. Every time a page is flipped and pop-up ads appears, it's exactly as Kwalish says, it eating away at your allotted bandwidth usage.

Now consider this, you did not agree to have Rogers and Yahoo! insert advertisements within the interface pages of your premium webmail, nor were you advise of such action. You're within your right to cancel your service without any recourse and move away from Rogers. Give Rogers the same treatment that was given to Bell. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441393 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:14:00 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441243 Sempronius : Over the weekend I send an email off to Ellen Roseman about this. Just picked up her email now. Apparently others have written her as well. She's followed through with an email asking Rogers to explain the purpose for the advertisements, she waiting a reply, and will write an article either on her blog or in the Toronto Star.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441243 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:43:57 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441167 HiVolt :

said by Stojko

:

GMail advertisements are unobtrusive text ads. I barely even notice them.

Yeah, the gmail text ads don't bother me at all. They're at an unobtrusive part of the screen, and I normally use large monitors, so they are out of the way.
--
GO LEAFS GO!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441167 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:31:50 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441071 Stojko : I stopped using ISP email a long time ago. I use GMail - it's free, has over 7GB of storage and has a streamlined interface.

GMail advertisements are unobtrusive text ads. I barely even notice them. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21441071 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:13:14 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21439982 kwalish : Ugh... I noticed this yesterday when I logged in to check my mail. Like many others on here I'm upset because, ostensibly, part of the (ever increasing, I might add) money I'm paying for my internet is going towards these little value-added services like webmail. I would use a mail client, however it is kinda convenient being able to check my email from any computer.

What's really infuriating is that the ad keeps popping up whenever you switch messages, and it reloads the ad every time you do something in the client. It's distracting, and needling away at my bandwidth cap.

Living in Newfoundland, my only other option is Bell Aliant, which curiously enough has become available in my neighborhood recently. I just wish we had more options here for high-speed, like TekSavvy :huh: In my mind it's just switching from one greedy telecom that doesn't care about their customers to another.

A lot of things I sign up for are set up to use my Rogers email address, I think I will be switching to some ISP neutral mail provider like GMail full time soon, as to prevent any difficulty in changing my email address in the future, like say, when I change ISPs in frustration.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21439982 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:40:39 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21439826 johnt1328 : Agreed - this is the most annoying thing ever.
I am in webmail all day and losing 1/8 of screen real estate EVERY click is really annoying. I can't go to a single system mail client because with kids I never know which computer is available through the day. 5 minutes in my webmail and I'm ready to punch my screen.

- Switching to another webmail service or getting my own hosting could be done but time consuming and I thought I was already paying money for service that included email without spam - which is what this is isn't it ? Unwanted advertising material literally in your Inbox.

Good point on the bandwidth too, does this count ? If so then shouldn't it get knocked off our usage ?

I'll open a new case every day or 3 - 4 times a day and switch back to classic for now.

EDIT In Classic mail you still get the ads but they are along the top and not as intrusive, a 1/8 scroll sends them up. You cans also start blocking 'blanking' them with various tools. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21439826 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:12:42 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436372 sbrook : Moreover they're sending you lots of bytes you're paying for (which is another reason I don't like webmail, even when I'm away).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436372 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:01:05 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436314 Sempronius :

said by SL2 :

Also, I would argue that the distraction factor is a major usability issue. Webmail is not a passive technology and it is not a magazine, it is a actually a virtual work space we buy and pay a premium to use (as compared to free services). That constitutes a significant change in the agreement between seller and buyer that needs fair opportunity to understand before one can exercise the type of renegotiation suggested by Lauren.

Precisely, in few or less words, what I said to Lauren Weinstein. It's like comparing apples to oranges. They're two different things.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436314 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:42:47 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436302 Sempronius : Agreed!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436302 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:39:27 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436299 anon : As mentioned previously by anon23424, Adblock added to Mozilla Firefox removes the advertising on the right hand side bar but a large blank unusable area still takes up the message viewing area of your screen each time you check a new message. This makes multi tasking with multiple windows open pointless. It effectively moves all of us back one generation of monitor resolution to be forced to use this work around. Tough luck for road warriors with smaller screen resolution. Also text advertising links on the lower left still limit the area available for folders even with my version of Adblock.

As for the comment from Lauren forwarded by Sempronius, that take on things does not address any of the issues about how the "introduction of advertising" compromises the interface and usability of the webmail people are paying a premium to use. Also, I would argue that the distraction factor is a major usability issue. Webmail is not a passive technology and it is not a magazine, it is a actually a virtual work space we buy and pay a premium to use (as compared to free services). That constitutes a significant change in the agreement between seller and buyer that needs fair opportunity to understand before one can exercise the type of renegotiation suggested by Lauren.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436299 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:38:12 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436288 sbrook : That's as unhelpful as it gets.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436288 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:34:26 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436234 Sempronius : Lauren Weinstein »lauren.vortex.com/ has this comments to offer re Rogers inserting advertisements into premium subscriber's web mail pages...

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436234 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:22:05 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436151 anon : well simple trick for now is to switch to old Yahoo classic view account and the ads disappear on the side but they still show on top part of screen without hindering the view of ur actual mail.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436151 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:01:12 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435770 Sempronius : Good for you. More need to follow suit. United we stand, divided we fall. :)

Footnote: I'll also add that I sent emails to The Toronto Star, CTV News, CBC, P2PNet, Lauren Weinstein, Michael Geist...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435770 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:22:08 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435723 anon : Wow, was I shocked when I too woke up in the morning to find my email frames surrounded by flashing and moving ads. First thing I did was click on the link to tell me more about the change....very informing.

I did send a complaint through a webform to Rogers but have recieved no reply.

I just sent this email...let you know what I hear:

_______________________
Ms. Haistma:

I'm writing you to express my dissatisfaction with recent changes that Rogers has made to their user paid email service.

During the overnight hours of November 13th a change was introduced, without notice, that inserted advertisements in the side and bottom panels of the users of Rogers/Yahoo webmail.

My disappointment arises from 2 issues:

1. The lack of notice that this change was going to occur to the users of this service. With a Project Management background in IT, had I done the same thing in my organization, my users would have absolutely called for a public execution.

2. The principle that because I pay for my monthly service from Rogers, and email capability is inclusive in that purchased service, I should not be visually assaulted by advertisements that I cannot control or turn off. One of the prime reasons I have chosen Rogers as my service provider is the absence of advertising contained within your service. It's something that I expect from a service that I have procured.

To date there has been absolutely zero communication from Rogers with respect to this change. Keeping users informed is something I have come to expect from Rogers, and I hope this tradition continues by correcting this slight change in course.

Best Regards.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435723 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:08:39 EDT Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435619 Sempronius : Just to ask, will someone please post a sample of the adverts that appear within Rogers Webmail here. Jon Newton, from P2PNet would like to see a sample, subsequent to an email I sent to him.

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435619 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:37:47 EDT Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435572 Sempronius : Within Canada you send in a yearly Canadian Money Order for $15.00. Outside of Canada (U.S. Residents), a U.S. Money Order. That's the way I've always done for the past 5 years. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435572 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:20:26 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435409 DS256 :

said by Sempronius

:

Exactly the reason why I refuse to use any web-base email that supports ads.

For the past five years I have been using the web-base email service of Burntmail.com »https://burntmail.com It's wholly Canadian owned and operated based in Edmonton, Alberta and non ad-supported; A superior web-base email than Yahoo!, Gmail, Windows Live Hotmail, etc., will ever hope to be. All of these are ad-supported and it's really annoying to see all these over-sized averts within the interface pages of your web-mail including tag-lines attached to outbound messages. Burntmail doesn't support any form of advertisement and its service is growing in popularity all the time.

When the kids starting going off to post secondary school, I wanted a web presence for pages and mail that didn't require them to change everytime they moved. I also found a good Canadian company (Mecca) that offers www.eHosting.ca. Mind you instead of US$15/yr for Burntmail this one is CA$4/mth. It's a great reliable service with an excellent SPAM filter. Works behind either Rogers or Bells Firewall for using mail clients like Express or Thunderbird.

What I wish is that ISP's were required to break out web and mail services separately and only offer the IP address. That would allow other vendors to offer value added services. Mind you, I can see the ISP's pricing IP service the same as they charge today.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435409 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:24:50 EDT Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435256 Sempronius : Right! A premium subscriber to Rogers whose paying $54.95 a month for Hispeed Internet, who chooses to use Rogers Webmail has to content with advertisements in the interface pages of their webmail. Think again!

This argument that Rogers is giving that 'Advertising content is commonly included in other popular mail services such as Hotmail and Gmail' is a bull shit. Premium subscriber's to Gmail, Yahoo, Windows Live Hotmail who pay a premium yearly fee see no advertisements. Free subscriber's, yes, see advertisements. Premium subscriber's to Rogers are well within their right to complain.

Footnote: It's bad enough that Rogers is intercepting other company's webpages and inserting banner ads alerting their subscriber's when they've reached 75% of their allotted bandwidth usage. And now to shove avertisements upon their premium subscriber's by inserting advertisements in premiums subscriber's webmail. Enough is enough of allowing Rogers to dominate their premium subscriber's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435256 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:13:34 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435244 anon : No thanks i have more important things in my life to worry about than a few ads in my webmail service.

I guess some people have ALOT more time on there hands then i do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435244 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:06:50 EDT Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435211 Sempronius :
said by KraZe :

In the new-mail version, there should be a little tab on the right side (left side of the ad) to hide it. It will be there next time you load the page up, but at least you can get it to move out of the way.

As IN4Mer has indicated, Webmail subscriber's are paying a premium fee to Rogers and therefore no advertisements should appear, whatsoever, within the interface pages of Rogers Yahoo! HiSpeed Webmail.

I agree with Sbrook, 'Time for major complaining.' However, if subscriber's choose to take no action, then a clear message is being sent to Rogers that subscriber's are satisfied with Rogers and Yahoo! inserting advertisements within the interface pages of premium subscriber's web mail.

Now is the time to take action by contacting one or all of the following, and make it clear that as a paid subscriber to Rogers Yahoo! you'll not tolerate advertisements of any kind within the interface pages of your premium subscription to Rogers web mail.

Jerry Yang
CEO and Chief Yahoo! - jerry@yahoo-inc.com

Roy J. Bostock
Chairman of the Board for Yahoo! Inc (Since January 2008) - bostock@yahoo-inc.com

Ted Rogers
CEO and President Rogers Communications - trogers@rci.rogers.com

Jane Haitsma
Customer Relations Executive Rogers Communications - jhaitsma@rci.rogers.com

Taanta Gupta - Executive Vice President, Rogers Communications - taanta.gupta@rci.rogers.com

Footnote: As well, let Rogers and Yahoo! know that you mean business with them; forward a copy of your email off to the media (include a snap shot) to the Toronto Star Editorial Department - city@thestar.ca , or CTV Online News -newsonline@ctv.ca The Star and CTV are always looking for news like this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435211 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:48:52 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435107 elwoodblues : Actually it doesn't. I many cases the space is filled in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435107 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 05:33:22 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21434390 KraZe : In the new-mail version, there should be a little tab on the right side (left side of the ad) to hide it. It will be there next time you load the page up, but at least you can get it to move out of the way.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21434390 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:40:13 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21434292 anon : With Adblock you don't see the ads but the space they would appear in is still wasted. For example the big ad bar on the right side.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21434292 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:06:57 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433655 anon : I use this top secret program called ADBLOCK. And to my surprise, i don't see any ads. IT'S AMAZING.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433655 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:13:04 EDT Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433094 Sempronius : Exactly the reason why I refuse to use any web-base email that supports ads.

For the past five years I have been using the web-base email service of Burntmail.com »https://burntmail.com It's wholly Canadian owned and operated based in Edmonton, Alberta and non ad-supported; A superior web-base email than Yahoo!, Gmail, Windows Live Hotmail, etc., will ever hope to be. All of these are ad-supported and it's really annoying to see all these over-sized averts within the interface pages of your web-mail including tag-lines attached to outbound messages. Burntmail doesn't support any form of advertisement and its service is growing in popularity all the time.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433094 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:32:09 EDT Re: Rogers Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432969 anon : Rogers Yahoo web mail now looks like circus, the ads refresh every time you click on anything. It's not only very obtrusive but it gives their mail product a feel of a cheap email account. I understand they want to make more money but this goes too far. I believe I am paying quite a premium for their High speed internet product, not to mention their frequent price hikes so they should keep it ad free or at minimum less irritating. Web mail is advertised as a part of their high-speed package.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432969 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:00:57 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432711 Stewy :

said by elwoodblues

:

Their attitude is very simple, you are NOT GOING TO GET 10mb ANYWHERE ELSE SO THERE.

Heck I can't even get 10Mbps with rogers.

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It's all... part of the plan.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432711 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:39:05 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432302 elwoodblues : Their attitude is very simple, you are NOT GOING TO GET 10mb ANYWHERE ELSE SO THERE.

I'm on 3web (which at his very moment has slowed down to under 4mb, but I refuse to go to Rogers and DSL will give me MAX 2.5mb(I suspect now that is Bell putting me on a low profile on purpose).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432302 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:48:09 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432299 elwoodblues : Like Sbrook, I have my own domain, as well as number of Gmail accounts.

My mail provider(amongst other things) also has a great anti-spam system which I CONTROL and can white/blacklist whom I wish]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432299 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:46:44 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431866 anon : This rude and invasive advertising spam-move by Rogers demonstrates the systemic disregard Rogers has for its customers. They market the rogers-yahoo mail component as part of the service. It is false advertising for Rogers reps to tell us they only provide connectivity. They market a full service not-for-free internet service. It is amazing how much useful screen real estate that one needs to manage messages, has been unilaterally taken from the customer. After all, the customer pays for the screen area and Rogers has taken that space from us with no opportunity to turn it off. I need all of the space I have on the screen to be productive. Rogers reduction in my available work space takes away any reason to use the Rogers package over something like gmail. Now there is no reason to stay with Rogers and every reason to change.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431866 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:53:53 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431400 Stojko : I fear what else Rogers has in store for us.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431400 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:56:04 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431246 KraZe :

said by Stewy

said by Arcturus

:

Why would you lock yourself into an ISP like that?

Exactly, the other thing you need to consider is that if you cancel your internet with Rogers they will also close your Yahoo Webmail account.

That's only if you joined your Yahoo! mail account with your Rogers account when you created it, and even then, the Yahoo! account is recoverable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431246 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:57:03 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431090 rudeboy24 : probably not they would have to host your account on there server for as long as you wont it ,there would be to many technical issues to move it to another isp.....they could sell you an email service i guess but why waste time and money just use hotmail, gmail or yahoo's free service ..there not going anywhere anytime soon]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431090 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:59:25 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431074 drunkgoat : just like there is number portability now, I can see email portability being demanded in the future. Question is when ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431074 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:47:39 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21429072 Stewy :

said by Arcturus

:

Why would you lock yourself into an ISP like that?

Exactly, the other thing you need to consider is that if you cancel your internet with Rogers they will also close your Yahoo Webmail account.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21429072 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:31:09 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21428967 Arcturus : In all seriousness however I might ask

Who in their correct mind is using their free ISP email account?

Why would you lock yourself into an ISP like that?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21428967 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:14:06 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21428889 sbrook : Correct.

Time for some major complaining.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21428889 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:01:00 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21428806 HiVolt : Wasn't there a similar thing when Rogers first dropped their own webhosting in favour of Geocities or something? They just slapped users on the free, ad infested service. I think after some bitching Rogers subscribers were upgraded to ad-free Geocities accounts.
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GO LEAFS GO!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21428806 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:47:29 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21428004 sbrook : Yup ... It's very frustrating. Makes me all the more glad I don't rely on freemail or ISP services.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21428004 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:15:28 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427999 elwoodblues : I'm not saying it's right, I'm simply pointing out what the story will be when you complain.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427999 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:11:47 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427353 kliles :

said by drunkgoat

:

first it was dropping everyone's speed by 2mbps ("to allow for network imporvements")

then it was dropping the free hosted web space

then it was dropping usenet ("because of child porn")

then it was throttling

then it was the download cap

now it's putting ads into our email

the slide down the slippery slope continues...

just add this new transgression to the list, which also includes web page injections, and 404 hijacks.

go ahead, make my day... :)

Yes, I know the futility of complaining about ANYTHING to do with Rogers, but there might be therapeutic value...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427353 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:55:34 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427324 drunkgoat : first it was dropping everyone's speed by 2mbps ("to allow for network imporvements")

then it was dropping the free hosted web space

then it was dropping usenet ("because of child porn")

then it was throttling

then it was the download cap

now it's putting ads into our email

the slide down the slippery slope continues...

just add this new transgression to the list, which also includes web page injections, and 404 hijacks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427324 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:49:54 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427267 elwoodblues : No you don't.

Rogers attitude is you are paying for connectivty to the Internet and the rest is "free"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427267 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:38:11 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427084 kliles : In the main webmail screen, say looking at inbox, you can click on a arrow icon to hide/unhide the advert that appears down the rightmost 25% or so of the screen, but as soon as you DO anything (like open an email or click on 'check mail' or the like) the advert once again encroaches on the screen.

This makes it beyond annoying (maybe Rogers should use that as their new marketing slogan).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21427084 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:00:04 EDT Re: Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21426932 IN4MER : I agree with you totally

This is the reply I got

Advertising content is commonly included in other popular mail services
such as 'Hotmail' and 'Gmail'. Rogers and Yahoo! have jointly introduced
advertising content, to the Rogers Yahoo! Mail service.

HOTMAIL AND GMAIL IS FREE

We pay for yahoo e-mail services...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21426932 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:30:41 EDT Webmail now has adverts? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21426474 kliles : What is this crap? Now Yahoo/Rogers webmail has inline adverts all over the bloody page...

It simply says: "Recently, Rogers and Yahoo! jointly introduced advertising content to the Rogers Yahoo! Mail service."

This is brutal and as far as I can tell, just started overnight (between Nov.13 and Nov.14) since I use webmail every day.

Of course, 99% of the crappy ads are blocked by judicious entries in my hosts file, but the space on the screen occupied by the messages about the ad not appearing are a huge drag.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21426474 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:48:13 EDT