Re: Caller ID on Screen in Verizon FIOS TV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21433658 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:30:26 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:30:26 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498023 Mark F : Having telephonic capabilities on your TV may or may not be a good thing. Does anyone remember the Zenith Space Phone?

We had a console set with that. You could make a call using the remote, and when the phone rang it would mute the TV. But, if someone ended up talking awhile, you would miss some of a favorite show.

Onscreen caller ID might be nice, especially if it didn't disrupt a show and the call was answered elsewhere. But, we still have our small GTE caller ID and there are other improvements/additions that I'd rather see.
Mark F]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498023 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:38:21 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21485602 rtcy :
said by ws27 See Profile :

I believe the bundle price will be the same as pots. You prob won't save any money in the bundle by going to Fios digital voice, but you will pick up this new feature and hopefully more.
yes I'll bet one of the new features would be less rights than you have over plain pots or ISDN lines .

just wondering with all those new "millenium" laws that rape the constitution]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21485602 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:39:40 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21472940 Earleyp : Thank you :)

My head hurts now, But I get it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21472940 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:28:47 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21472910 Rattler :
said by Earleyp See Profile :

:huh: Do you have a link where I can learn more about this werid thing?

Not the VOIP site
Here is a link to a discussion of FiOS. Some of the info may be somewhat outdated but it is pretty much correct, for the most part, and should give you the basics. Scroll about 1/3 down the page to read about the fiber technology:

»www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedi···zon-FiOS
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Not the VOIP site]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21472833 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:07:51 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21468997 Rattler : Voice has its own (shared with internet) pair of wavelengths on the fiber. It's like you have a dedicated fiber connection to the CO for your phone service - the internet is not involved. The ONT simply decodes/encodes the POTS inside your house from/to the optical signal on the fiber.

There are three separate signals imposed on the single fiber to your house. In for voice/data, Out for voice and data and In for the impressed TV RF signals.
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Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. -- Red Buttons]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21468997 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:54:49 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21468941 Earleyp :
said by mystryfiostk See Profile :

said by KenAF See Profile :

said by centc408 See Profile :

Remember, with FiOS, phone calls use the fiber data connection (ip) just like Internet access.
regular FiOS phone service is not IP, its POTS.

FiOS Digital Voice is the new voip product - not yet available.
What!!

I ony have 3 lines to my house, from the telephone pole. The Fios, Power, and that water thing. So How could I have POTS if there is only three lines? And I'm sure I don't have the VOIP thing]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21468941 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:38:25 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21467973 matcarl :
said by KenAF See Profile :

I can't imagine paying $40/mo for a landline anymore.

I pay a little over $8/mo after taxes for Vonage phone service, which includes free incoming and 0.038/minute for outgoing. Most of my outgoing is on a cell.
But if it's in a bundle it's worth it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21467973 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:52:06 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21467924 KenAF : I can't imagine paying $40/mo for a landline anymore.

I pay a little over $8/mo after taxes for Vonage phone service, which includes free incoming and 0.038/minute for outgoing. Most of my outgoing is on a cell.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21467924 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:39:20 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21467852 robjlevin : Way too expensive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21467852 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:14:10 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21465464 matcarl : It would take the place of their regular POTS for triple play without most of the fees.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21465464 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:46:11 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21465163 joe01880 :
said by Lee GWB See Profile :

2 words "Magic" "Jack"
If it is too pricey ;)
I guess i should have been specific. What im wondering is will DV be available in a bundle with TV reducing the cost to the customer even more then being bundled with Voice/Internet/TV. With TV, technically it would only be Internet/TV. Like the Flex plan and hopefully cheaper. If not whats the point of switching from regular voice, which is delivered via fiber, to Digital Voice, which is delivered via fiber? Taking a chance with Verizon having the bugs worked out with the new DV service. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21465163 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:46:03 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21465130 CeeZee :
said by stevec325 See Profile :

I sure do hope we can turn it off.
Second that!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21465130 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:39:53 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21465039 klipko :
said by joe01880 See Profile :

The PDF was very informative about everything except cost!
All of my direct links to Verizon FiOS Digital Voice are on my PC at home but from what I last remember reading...

Voice Unlimited Plan- $40 / month
Per Minute Plan - $15 / month

This thread (»[General] Verizon FiOS Digital Voice) talks a little more about it but still not much is known about the final price with or without bundles and service release date.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21465039 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:26:08 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21464933 Lee GWB : 2 words "Magic" "Jack"
If it is too pricey ;)
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said by klipko See Profile :

Here is a FAQ link about FiOS Digital Voice.
»www22.verizon.com/fiosvoice/help/FAQs.pdf

Webpage:
»https://www36.verizon.com/fiosvoice/GetF···ice.aspx
The PDF was very informative about everything except cost!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21464799 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:41:06 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21464693 stevec325 : I sure do hope we can turn it off.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21464693 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:22:58 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21464560 lets456 :
said by kjgryz See Profile :

Early next year... does that mean December of 2009? LOL
Oh come on now....stop with the negative comments!!! it will be late November 2009... ;)

I for one miss having it....I loved that feature with D*...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21464560 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:59:43 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21464481 kjgryz : Early next year... does that mean December of 2009? LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21464481 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:48:22 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21445845 anon : Callerid will be available early next year for customers having FiosTV and FiosVoice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21445845 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:21:44 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21439395 klipko : Here is a FAQ link about FiOS Digital Voice.
»www22.verizon.com/fiosvoice/help/FAQs.pdf

Webpage:
»https://www36.verizon.com/fiosvoice/GetF···ice.aspx]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21439395 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:20:23 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21437797 ramslt8 : "was under the impressions that FiOS Voice was a new VOIP product, and not the same as the current Freedom Essentials POTS service (that I currently have via fiber)."

Sorry if I confused you, we just call all dial tone service "voice" whether it be Freedom (currently same as POTS) or the new Digital (VOIP) which they are working on.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21437797 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:15:56 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21437779 ramslt8 : "What does the ONT have to do with caller ID? My phones are on the 610 and caller ID works."

Yes that is true for the current system, but if/when they offer digital phone (VOIP) the 610 ont we were told will not be able to accept the software upgrade that is needed, not that big of a deal, upgrading to a newer 611 or 612 is an easy task.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21437779 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:10:56 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436638 kes601 :
said by ramslt8 See Profile :

said by kes601 See Profile :

Unfortunately for those of us with security systems FiOS Voice would probably not be an option. That's going to be annoying if that is the only way to get caller ID via the STB.
Fios voice at the ont is the same as POTS (still has 48-52 volts at demark). Have done plenty of installs with alarm systems and have had no problems.
I was under the impressions that FiOS Voice was a new VOIP product, and not the same as the current Freedom Essentials POTS service (that I currently have via fiber).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21436638 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:21:54 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435992 Rattler :
said by prisaz2 :

What does the ONT have to do with caller ID? My phones are on the 610 and caller ID works.
Phones respond to the caller ID signal sent over the phone wires in your house. The ONT already does that translation/decoding.

In order to display caller ID on your TV screen, there would have to be some bridging done, somewhere (in the ONT or CO), to impress it on the MoCA or video signals delivered to the STBs. They are two separate animals. Also, there would need to be firmware in the STBs to decode the caller ID data and display it as an overlay on the screen.

Frankly, I'd hope they get what is already supposed to be working fixed properly BEFORE they try to add another feature that will (more than likely) impact negatively on some aspect of STB performance.
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Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. -- Red Buttons]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435992 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:13:34 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435979 sneskid :
said by ramslt8 See Profile :

Question was brought up the other day in a meeting (yes I am a fios tech), talks of having it available 1st quarter of '09
NOOO!!! PLEASE DON'T!

Knowing Verizon, there won't be an option to turn it off!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435979 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:07:42 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435934 anon : What does the ONT have to do with caller ID? My phones are on the 610 and caller ID works.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435934 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:54:22 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435780 Mark F : Our caller ID box from GTE still works and can tell us who's calling, or the number the call is from, most of the time.

Now. if Verizon could come up with an onscreen version that would let us view the name and number of who's calling, so we'd know if someone we want to hear from is calling (then mute, or lower the volume of, the TV when we take the call) and automatically zap the annoying telemarketer calls, I'd be willing to put up with a few polka dots.
Mark F]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435780 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:24:14 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435680 joe01880 : Verizon firmware for the STB's have WAY to many bugs to be worrying about adding something like on screen caller ID.
They will add it and it will work great but then the pic might veiw sideways, or have poke-a-dots or only show BOZO or something.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435680 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:57:16 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435524 sansri88 : FiOS caller ID on TV might be like Comcast's...Comcast's phone service (CDV) shows up on our HD boxes without having to plug in a phone line.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435524 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:04:52 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435300 ramslt8 : Even if they go to digital voice (VOIP) it will still convert to POTS at the ONT (the only issue would be if you still have a 610 ONT which will not support the new service)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435300 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:35:38 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435293 ramslt8 :
said by kes601 See Profile :

Unfortunately for those of us with security systems FiOS Voice would probably not be an option. That's going to be annoying if that is the only way to get caller ID via the STB.
Fios voice at the ont is the same as POTS (still has 48-52 volts at demark). Have done plenty of installs with alarm systems and have had no problems. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435293 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:32:50 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435250 kes601 : Unfortunately for those of us with security systems FiOS Voice would probably not be an option. That's going to be annoying if that is the only way to get caller ID via the STB.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21435250 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:10:35 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433968 matcarl :
said by ws27 See Profile :

I believe the bundle price will be the same as pots. You prob won't save any money in the bundle by going to Fios digital voice, but you will pick up this new feature and hopefully more.
You will also save on the many taxes they charge for POTS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433968 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:32:44 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433787 ws27 : I believe the bundle price will be the same as pots. You prob won't save any money in the bundle by going to Fios digital voice, but you will pick up this new feature and hopefully more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433787 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:44:05 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433731 JohnA :
Too expensive. ATT tried $40, and had to lower the price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433731 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:32:26 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433658 UofMiamiGrad : Attached is the TOS for FIOS Digital Voice. Unlimited is $44.95/month, no mention of bundling in the TOS. $9.99/month each additional line.
FIOS Digital··· TOS.pdf
Digital Voice TOS
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433658 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:13:49 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433603 mystryfiostk :
said by KenAF See Profile :

said by centc408 See Profile :

Remember, with FiOS, phone calls use the fiber data connection (ip) just like Internet access.
regular FiOS phone service is not IP, its POTS.

FiOS Digital Voice is the new voip product - not yet available. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433603 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:57:22 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433554 mystryfiostk :
said by centc408 See Profile :

And just how is it going to show caller id without a phone line addition to the STB's?
the directv caller id feature is actually a relatively low tech feature that is a gimmee since they have the phone line connected to their set tops.

verizon's solution would be ip over the already present moca network.

this feature would likely be part of some fios digital voice (voip) feature set. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433554 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:43:15 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433525 KenAF :
said by centc408 See Profile :

And just how is it going to show caller id without a phone line addition to the STB's?
Remember, with FiOS, phone calls use the fiber data connection (ip) just like Internet access. Verizon can display caller id information with a coax connection just as other cable companies can. No phone jack is necessary.

Some other cable companies already do this and as indicated above, Verizon has indicated its intention to do the same. Note you will need telephone service from Verizon to take advantage of this feature when it is available; it won't work with other services like Vonage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433525 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:35:19 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433491 centc408 : And just how is it going to show caller id without a phone line addition to the STB's?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21433491 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:25:59 EDT Re: Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432194 ramslt8 : Question was brought up the other day in a meeting (yes I am a fios tech), talks of having it available 1st quarter of '09]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21432194 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:21:25 EDT Caller ID on Screen http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431922 kjgryz : Anyone hear anything regarding this issue? Is the phone company having a problem with this addition? Caller ID on the TV was always a nice feature with DTV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21431922 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:11:11 EDT