Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv | Just in time
Cable Cos and ATT are getting those Monthly Caps in place just in time.  |
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JasonOD
@comcast.net
| They're not stupid. I'm a stockholder owning shares of both Comcast and ATT, and we're already pissed off enough as it is. Both companies have to increase profit margins, and if they can't get the IPTV video content players to pay, then caps are the only alternative.
I'm not against overages either and disagree with Comcast simply terminating high bandwidth accounts. As far as I'm concerned, they are taking money away from the company by not allowing overage charges. Bandwith is cheap enough, so even charging a quarter a gig would be mostly profit. |
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masterpjz9
join:2000-10-14
Peabody, MA | You really think Comcast's and ATT's profit margins aren't high enough already? You don't see Verizon putting any caps on their FIOS... |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | "You don't see Verizon putting any caps on their FIOS..."
Give them time. If they see it's a big success for the other big guys they will do it too. |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
| reply to JasonOD
There is no bandwidth crunch. Comcast is worried because it doesn't own its own backbone and has to buy its bandwidth from an upstream provider or at the very least be on the losing end of a peering relationship since most of its traffic is customers downloading from the Interwebs.
AT&T, on the other hand, owns more bandwidth than god but has been incredibly short sighted and greedy when it comes to planning upgrades for the last mile. They don't like bandwidth hogs because they can't really compete with their competition. DSL pair bonding never left the lab and their FTTP footprint is so minuscule, it might as well not exist.
As another poster mentioned...you don't see Verizon worried about this silliness, do you?
That's because VZ had the forethought to actually buy their way to owning a pretty big chunk of the Internet backbone via the MCI/UUNET purchase. And then they went out and built a FTTP plant.
Shareholders hated it at the time. Many shortsighted oafs, the same kind that are out of work on wall street now, were crying murder. But If I were an investor with cash, I'd buy VZ.
They have a long term plan that beats all others and have proved that it works. ...and with the current stock market conditions, the stock has never been a better buy.
AT&T will only succeed if it can buy its way to success with lobbyists and killing competition.
Comcast can always go back to being a video provider. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to Mactron
said by Mactron  :Cable Cos and ATT are getting those Monthly Caps in place just in time. The "NEW pay per view" only its a 320x240 window AT THE SAME price cable charges for PPV!
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Penny3000
join:2003-11-24
Oak Ridge, TN | reply to kapil
Comcast does have it's own fiber backbone. Just adding a correction. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to JasonOD
said by JasonOD :
They're not stupid. I'm a stockholder owning shares of both Comcast and ATT, and we're already pissed off enough as it is. Both companies have to increase profit margins, and if they can't get the IPTV video content players to pay, then caps are the only alternative. Why should they have to pay? They already pay for bandwidth and so do Comcast and at&t cusotmers. Sorry and tough shit for you and them. Keep trying these caps Comcast and at&t will be the ones fucked in the end. Just wait.
Comcast and at&t already make plenty enough money and could make more if they just quit being rtetared and get rid of retard management and get management with BRAINS. Pretty simple actualy. They want to do things the LAZY way. Nice to know you support retards. |
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gball
Master Yoda
Premium
join:2000-11-28
South Bend, IN
clubs:  
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Speaking of caps and pay per byte whatever.
You know I'm just an average joe. I'll watch my Knight Rider or The Office on nbc.com and I got no problems watching the ads which is much less than if I was watching it on TV.
Am I alone in feeling that the day my internet bill goes above I dunno say $60 a month I will simply get rid of it?
Do these companies really think the average person is gonna pay $100+ a month in overages whatever because they need to download HD movies etc?
Hey I like the internet just as much as anyone else but I got priorities like HEAT/ELECTRIC/WATER/PHONE
These companies need a wake up call or I'm just alone in not being able to afford some crazy ass internet bill cause I want to watch and download all this crap on the internet. I will simply start driving down to blockbuster again and renting. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
1 edit | said by gball :Speaking of caps and pay per byte whatever. You know I'm just an average joe. I'll watch my Knight Rider or The Office on nbc.com and I got no problems watching the ads which is much less than if I was watching it on TV. Am I alone in feeling that the day my internet bill goes above I dunno say $60 a month I will simply get rid of it? Do these companies really think the average person is gonna pay $100+ a month in overages whatever because they need to download HD movies etc? They are stupid enough to think you will still pay full price for internet stop using it so much and go back to watching regular TV. That's the plan. Frankly if I had to get rid of one I'd get rid of cable. Tv is just TV. The internet you can do many things.
Now if people are smart and they live in an area where they have choice they would do somethng, like this to teach these companies. Ok I have Charter cable, internet phone with at&t( at&t also offers DSl ) so both have caps. OK Well I'd go with who had the highest cap( probably Charter ). Then I dump BOTH phone and cable. Go with directTv and just use strictly cell through Verizon or use something like skype or other VoIp. Now at&t not only lost me as a potential internet customer, but also lost my phone business. Charter lost me as a cable customer after 8 years. Will either company make back the revenue from me on cap overages? Nope. Since the ISPs say only a SMALL % of customers even go over the cap, the revenue they will get from overage fees is very small. If people dump their other services like me they will LOSE revenue. And it will only take a small % for that to have an effect. So ISPs are being short sighted, obtuse and just plain ignorant if they think this won't happen. |
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Ryno
The Wanderer
Premium
join:2001-04-07
Danielsville, PA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·RCN CABLE
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And the way the internet is evolving everyone will eventually be a high bandwidth user. Cable companies with some content being web based will be forcing consumers to use cap space thus creating overages. your monthly bill will eat up any profit you think you're going to make. Even basic web browsing and email has increased by a huge amount. Content is the number one reason we can no longer use dial up. Oh but I'm sure they will just randomly raise caps for people from time to time once they get them in place. If we still had pay per use like years ago the whole internet would not have turned out as it has.
Be careful what you wish for.
Oh and as a side note, there are much better investments than ATT and Comcast, maybe you wouldn't be pissed if you checked out other investments. |
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gball
Master Yoda
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join:2000-11-28
South Bend, IN
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I guess its just different for me. I have to have my dish TV for my kids. Theres icarly/drake and josh and so many other cartoons etc. Don't get me wrong I don't just let my kids sit in front of the TV all day but once homework is done and what not they are allowed to watch some of their favorite shows. Plus I got some shows I like to watch that aren't as easy for me to find on the net. Besides I would rather watch them on the big screen.
Don't get me wrong I love my highspeed internet and what not but push come to shove I will drop it and go back to dial up before I pay some crazy ass amount cause some greedy dude at AT&T wants to charge me by the byte because they can't adapt to a chaning business model..
I pay for my internet and who ever im connecting to pays for their connection so it seems to me someone is just being greedy. |
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