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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : fiberguy,<br><br>Amen someone that thinks the same way as I do!<br>I left Comcast because of all the crap they pulled with <br>Elderly customers.  Constant network problems and upgrades. The CDV product was down more than up when these older people needed it!<br><br>Its not alwasy about price.  When a persons life is on the line they need to have a working phone.  Not one that is down for issues every night between 12:00-6:00am!<br><br>I and tons of older customers call me crying because something happened because their phones were out.<br><br>  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:03:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : but comcast hsi goes throught fiber network not copper phone lines. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:46:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[wifi4milez posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1206900" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1206900');">fiberguy</a>:</small><br><br>I have a client, now, that was thinking of going with uverse voice.. at ager 84 and 72, I would NEVER risk their safety with voip. <br></div>I couldnt agree more. Check out my own review (on this website) of my VoIP service directly to the left of this post. You will notice the final paragraph is titled "!!!!!IMPORTANT NOTICE!!!!!!", and it concludes with "If you have kids or feel that you may EVER need to dial 911, or if having a 100% reliable phone is important to you, DO NOT ORDER ANY VOIP SERVICE FROM ANY PROVIDER." <br>&raquo;<A HREF="/comment/2453/53830">Review of BroadVoice by wifi4milez</A><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1206900" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1206900');">fiberguy</a>:</small><br><br>People here often make the mistake at looking at every offer, program, or package that is put on the market as being something specific to them and not the greater picture. As tech savvy as I am, I also realize that there are MANY people that simply will not take risks with something like phone service just yet.  So it's not always about price.<br> </div>Yes, however this isnt POTS service either. While it certainly not independent VoIP, cable 'phone service' <b>will</b> go out during a power outage. You mention that older people dont want to tinker with a modem and such, yet how exactly do you think HSI works?? This setup involves a cable modem, a router, and some sort of ATA 'type' device. While the tech may set it up the first time, its certainly not rabbit ears and a phone jack as you are making it out to be. <br><small>--<br><b>&#1050;&#1086;&#1084;&#1080;&#1090;&#1077;&#1090; &#1075;&#1086;&#1089;&#1091;&#1076;&#1072;&#1088;&#1089;&#1090;&#1074;&#1077;&#1085;&#1085;&#1086;&#1081; &#1073;&#1077;&#1079;&#1086;&#1087;&#1072;&#1089;&#1085;&#1086;&#1089;&#1090;&#1080;</b><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:58:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[wifi4milez posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1206900" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1206900');">fiberguy</a>:</small><br><br>At some point, people have to live with a price point, period.<br> </div>Thats true, however I dont see this 'promo' attracting many customers. The point of this offering is to get low use customers to sign up, so the 'price point' needs to be appealing. Some Grandma that spends $10 a month on dialup probably isnt yapping on the phone all day either. For this reason, she probably has a phone bill of $20 or less depending on where she lives (I feel Grandparents receive far more calls than they place). Offering her a $50 (plus fees) package doesnt seem to me to be something she is going to jump at. <br><small>--<br><b>&#1050;&#1086;&#1084;&#1080;&#1090;&#1077;&#1090; &#1075;&#1086;&#1089;&#1091;&#1076;&#1072;&#1088;&#1089;&#1090;&#1074;&#1077;&#1085;&#1085;&#1086;&#1081; &#1073;&#1077;&#1079;&#1086;&#1087;&#1072;&#1089;&#1085;&#1086;&#1089;&#1090;&#1080;</b><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:34:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[fiberguy posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1054326" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1054326');">wifi4milez</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/887660" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=887660');">hottboiinnc</a>:</small><br><br>because after you factor in all the "fees and taxes" AT$T and VZ are going to add on top of that POTS charge of already $15 its still going to be just as much. <br> </div>It depends on where you live. Many places around the country the extra fees 'only' amount to $10 or so. You can get any number of VoIP services for far less than they are charging for local only. <br> </div>Not everyone is out for a 3rd party voice solution that you have to monkey rig when it goes down. Believe it or not, not everyone cares to reboot a router and self diagnose the service when there is a problem. Voip isn't for everyone ESPECIALLY older people. I deal with many people who are older in my business. I would NEVER put anything in their home that wasn't either 1) plain old copper, or 2) a managed phone service from a local provider with techs. Even then, I would stick with copper. I have a client, now, that was thinking of going with uverse voice.. at ager 84 and 72, I would NEVER risk their safety with voip. <br><br>People here often make the mistake at looking at every offer, program, or package that is put on the market as being something specific to them and not the greater picture. As tech savvy as I am, I also realize that there are MANY people that simply will not take risks with something like phone service just yet.  So it's not always about price.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:28:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[fiberguy posted : Doesn't sound bad to me. <br><br>People have deal-idas. Not everything is a "deal".. this is really nothing more than a package of two services that you'd buy ala cart from another provider. <br><br>It still is a good deal in my book. You're getting a $24.95 phone line that is a local service, which for some is enough, along with all 12 calling features minus voice mail and a 5 cent long distance WITHOUT the extra monthly plan fee, usually about $3.95.  The internet isn't bad either. You can't get that from the phone company for that price.. less taxes too. <br><br>Not everything has to be a "deal" .. why can't it just be priced right? If one is always getting a "deal" then you'll never be able to put something on special later.  At some point, people have to live with a price point, period.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:24:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Joe12345678 posted : is $10 basic local only cable tv part of the price that can't be droped?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:09:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[wifi4milez posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/887660" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=887660');">hottboiinnc</a>:</small><br><br>because after you factor in all the "fees and taxes" AT$T and VZ are going to add on top of that POTS charge of already $15 its still going to be just as much. <br> </div>It depends on where you live. Many places around the country the extra fees 'only' amount to $10 or so. You can get any number of VoIP services for far less than they are charging for local only. <br><small>--<br><b>&#1050;&#1086;&#1084;&#1080;&#1090;&#1077;&#1090; &#1075;&#1086;&#1089;&#1091;&#1076;&#1072;&#1088;&#1089;&#1090;&#1074;&#1077;&#1085;&#1085;&#1086;&#1081; &#1073;&#1077;&#1079;&#1086;&#1087;&#1072;&#1089;&#1085;&#1086;&#1089;&#1090;&#1080;</b><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:04:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[hottboiinnc posted : because after you factor in all the "fees and taxes" AT$T and VZ are going to add on top of that POTS charge of already $15 its still going to be just as much. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:56:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[wifi4milez posted : To be honest, $50 plus fees is not a very good deal, especially when you consider that this only offers local service. Assuming this will be bundled with 768k/384k, the price should be $29.95 (at most) to be competitive. With similar, low bandwidth DSL packages starting at $10 a month why would anyone buy this??<br><small>--<br><b>&#1050;&#1086;&#1084;&#1080;&#1090;&#1077;&#1090; &#1075;&#1086;&#1089;&#1091;&#1076;&#1072;&#1088;&#1089;&#1090;&#1074;&#1077;&#1085;&#1085;&#1086;&#1081; &#1073;&#1077;&#1079;&#1086;&#1087;&#1072;&#1089;&#1085;&#1086;&#1089;&#1090;&#1080;</b><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:39:23 EDT</pubDate>
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