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Lifeforce
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join:2002-05-27
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Bonded lines...

...Do these lines have to actually be physical? Would just a secondary login (different ip, etc.) suffice?


whutdumbquestion

@207.195.246.x

Nope, if you want to bond two lines, you NEED TWO LINES to bond.


Radar73

join:2008-01-20
Ajax, ON

reply to Lifeforce
Two physical lines are required for MLPPP, two modems too.



ruserious

@207.195.246.x

said by Radar73:

Two physical lines are required for MLPPP, two modems too.
You do not need two lines to use MLPPP. You don't even need a router, you can run it in XP with checking use multiple link or some crap. you only need two lines if you want to BOND two lines..

Radar73

join:2008-01-20
Ajax, ON

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said by ruserious :

said by Radar73:

Two physical lines are required for MLPPP, two modems too.
You do not need two lines to use MLPPP. You don't even need a router, you can run it in XP with checking use multiple link or some crap. you only need two lines if you want to BOND two lines..
Since the question is about BONDED LINES, two or more physical lines are required. It's hard to bond one line to nothing.

I should have phrased it better in my response, but I was responding to the question asked about bonding lines. MLPPP works in single link or multiple links, but to bond using MLPPP you need physical lines for each link.


vitesse

join:2002-12-17
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC
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reply to Lifeforce
1 copper line can give you 8mbps with 1050 khz of frequency bandwidth, this is the physical limit of one line. you can have faster speed with adsl2+ or vdsl, ADSL2+ use 2200 khz of frequency bandwidth so this is in part why this is faster.

when you bound two adsl 1 line it's like you have 2100 khz of bandwidth to use. You go twice as fast because you have twice the frequency bandwidth available and not because you use two loggin or connection.

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Lifeforce
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join:2002-05-27
canada

I kind of figured as much. Didn't mean to turn this into Romper Room Thanks to everyone who replied. Appreciate the input.


blue13130

join:2003-12-15
London, ON

reply to Lifeforce
Just curious about how much people have paid to get a second line installed in their house and setup to run MLPPP.

Also what is the total monthly cost of have a 2 link MLPPP setup?

Thanks.



HiVolt
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join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
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said by blue13130:

Just curious about how much people have paid to get a second line installed in their house and setup to run MLPPP.

Also what is the total monthly cost of have a 2 link MLPPP setup?

Thanks.
Well, the typical cost of a second line is $30/month for the DSL, and then the band rate fee, because most households do not have two active analog land lines. Band rate is basically a maintenance fee paid to Bell to use the copper line for DSL, if there is no phone service on it... Typical band rate for most users in urban areas is $7-10.
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ultracat

join:2008-01-30
Toronto, ON
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reply to blue13130

said by blue13130:

Just curious about how much people have paid to get a second line installed in their house and setup to run MLPPP.

Also what is the total monthly cost of have a 2 link MLPPP setup?

Thanks.
I just did this two weeks ago. I had to buy a WRT54GL router for $46.99 from Direct Canada, and a 2nd ADSL modem for $78 (you may be able to find a cheaper modem). The line setup cost is $19.99 to TSI (that covers Bell coming to hook up the line). If your home has relatively new wiring you can hook up the wall jack very easily yourself for free. Otherwise, the tech may do your wall jack for you for free if you're lucky. If you need to contract out for the wall jack installation it's about $120 I hear. Then you just pay TSI for your second line: $29.99 plus dry loop band fee (most likely $7.25/month) for premium 200GB cap or $39.99 plus dry loop band fee for unlimited. After it's setup you can call and ask them to combine your bills / lines so you just get 1 bill every month and you bandwidth cap (if any) is combined.

blue13130

join:2003-12-15
London, ON

Thanks for the help HiVolt and ultracat.

I just have one more question about the 2nd line wall jack. The electrical and wiring entry point to my home is in the front of the house. My office where my computer and router and modem is located in the back of the house. The basement of my house is fully finished and I am curious to see if anyone has ideas as to how the techs can install the 2nd line wall jack in my office. I assume they will need to somehow run a wire from the electrical entry point to the office and how is that done with a drywalled ceiling in the basement?

Thanks for the help in answering my questions.



vitesse

join:2002-12-17
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC

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reply to blue13130
currently it cost me 69$ for my mlppp setup (last month invoice) I have to premium account and 1 dry loop



Inssomniak
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join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON
kudos:1

reply to Lifeforce
I have you all beat.

3 Biz 6mb lines, all dry loops, all with a crazy dry loop fee (band f)

59.00+16.20*3

225 bux, plus tax!


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