BigPete82
@qwest.net | reply to Rick
Re: I almost think the bigger problem is..
Clever... while a lot of what you say is true, the telco's have wireless and cable doesn't. That's a pretty solid trump card for the future... |
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dadkins
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1 edit | said by BigPete82 :
Clever... while a lot of what you say is true, the telco's have wireless and cable doesn't. That's a pretty solid trump card for the future...
Wireless? As in Wireless Internet Service?
The article is about broadband.
With those killer 5GB caps, the telco's wireless is a non-issue.
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BigPete82
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| Ever heard of LTE? Clearly, right now, wireless broadband is not yet able to compete directly with wireline networks, but 10-15 years into the future we will be seeing it. As far as caps go, cable has them too. So yeah, wireless is definitely a trump card for the future... Furthermore, FiOS penetration rates are already above 20% in only 4 years. In another four years we could see 30-35% penetration rates. Eventually, cable will have to string fiber all the way to the home as well... who the hell knows what AT&T is thinking. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to BigPete82
Why do you think Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Bright House invested in the New Clearwire and Cablevision has its own Wi-Fi? |
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BigPete82
@qwest.net
| "Invest in" is much different than "Own". New Clearwire will not be part of their core business strategy, mainly because they will have little control over it. Sprint and Clearwire will be calling the shots. They may be able to reap some monetary dividends, but nothing like the wireless divisions of AT&T and Verizon... |
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dadkins
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| reply to BigPete82
10-15 years? ROFL!
Do you realize how long 10 years is? 15 years?
Yeah, 5GB wireless cap is a total threat to the 250GB cap Comcast has. Sure!
FiOS, as I have stated, VZ will not overbuild into AT&T territory so many people will never get to see FiOS.
Whatever you say friend, whatever you say! 
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rody_44
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Quakertown, PA | reply to BigPete82
20 percent penetration rate. so 20 percent have either tv, phone or internet over fiber. a true 20 percent would be if they actually had 20 percent of a area with phone, internet and tv. thats no where near the case. or i dont think anyway. |
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BigPete82
@qwest.net
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If we are talking about who has a more "future proof" strategy, 10-15 years is NOT that long. Yeah, its easier for cable companies to milk their copper in 2009, and they are taking more phone subscribers from the telco than the telco is taking video subscribers. Eventually, its all going to be an IP core and at that point Fiber to the Home and LTE broadband wireless will clearly be superior to cable's Fiber to the node strategy... whether or not you want to admit it, cable is eventually going to have to upgrade their networks... |
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BigPete82
@qwest.net
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According to Verizon's quarterly press releases, over 20% of the homes they have passed with fiber subscribe to FiOS TV, and over 20% of the homes they have passed subscribe to FiOS Internet. Are those 20+% the same people? I don't know for a fact, but its quite likely that most of them are double play subscribers. Add that to the close to 50% market share (but eroding quickly) they have in POTS and a significant % of their customers are triple play and even quadruple play(wireless) subscribers. |
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dadkins
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| reply to BigPete82
Never said they wouldn't!
You need to realize, what was once "Unlimited" wireless is a shambles now.
LTE won't be any different.
ANY of the true wireless services will be severely limited and within 10 years, we may very well see the likes of comcast extend that last mile of fiber.
Wireless has a lot of issues that will need to be overcome before it will ever be a serious threat to any hardline service.
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AVonGauss
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| said by dadkins  :and within 10 years, we may very well see the likes of comcast extend that last mile of fiber. It'll be sooner or that or we'll be picking on them like we are AT&T...  |
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fatmanskinny
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said by BigPete82 :
... who the hell knows what AT&T is thinking.
AT&T's U-Verse won't be able to hand Comcast their arse like Verizon FIOS is currently doing to Comcast in various parts of the country.
If Comcast really want to expand their footprint and be a bigger beast to reckon with, they would look at offering VOIP services via the internet. That way, they can compete with Vonage, Skype, Verizon VoiceWing (Verizon gets it and they are doing it!) and others.
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dnoyeB
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Wireless will never compete with wired on speed. Physics wont allow it. The only chance is the wireless provides enough speed so that the wired advantage is not needed.
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