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JustGetItFixed

@psu.edu
reply to dks7
Re: Sweet

why wouldn't you just get it fixed for FREE.
That red ring stuff is covered under a special 3 year extended warentee. They even pay for shipping, even if your original warentee is expired. At least they did for me.


MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
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reply to Devanchya
Re: Sweet

I'm buying my little brother's OG (Original Gangsta) 360 from him. He's had it for a good while, no issues.

MRCUR

join:2007-03-09
Columbia, PA

reply to Matt
said by Matt See Profile :

said by dks7 See Profile :

I got an xbox360 experience for you, how about one that doesn't 3 rings of death on you eventually, I am currently on my 6th machine, when this dies I am done. And will never buy Microsoft again.
After 6 of them, I'd start suspecting the user rather than the hardware.
You must not be familiar with the 360's reliability (or lack there of)...


Xbox360Blah



reply to chemaupr
I know several people that have gone through at least 3 or more systems. Almost everybody I know has had to have their system replaced at least once. Personally, I am on my third system since I bought my original system back in March of 2007 and I can say for sure that my systems did not die from misuse or excessive use as I normally only play an hour or two each night.

The plain fact of the matter is the Microsoft, who can't design hardware worth a damn, decided that they would put the system's GPU, the hottest part of the system, in the NARROWEST part of the case. The resulting lack of airflow eventually leads to the GPU effectively burning out. Microsoft has been trying to solve the problem with a larger heat sink and more thermal grease but this is nothing more than a band-aid. No matter which way you cut it, the 360 runs way too hot and has too little airflow.


Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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And I know 20 or so people with 360's who haven't had to replace a single one of theirs. Of course, they don't have them stuffed into a tiny little cubby hole in their entertainment center, or sitting on top of carpet either ...

There are problems with the 360 overheating, but when you get upwards of 3,4,5 or 6, I'd start investigating what *I* might be doing to cause the problem.


artk7263

@sbc.com

I agree...

Ive had mine sitting on a seperate table with lots of open airspace. THe power brick is on the table too. Not sitting on the carpet I was first shipment of the original xbox machines. Never had a problem with it. still going strong.

You need lots of open airspace, and not have anything impede its airflow. Its no different than a pc, its suppsoed to have x ammount of airspace arround it. typically if you provide that you should be ok.


XboxAnon

@qwest.net

reply to Matt
It's not just MS. I learnt about these new gen systems running hot a while back. My original PlayStation 1 with a mod chip overheated on me and died because I rested it directly on the carpet. It was a newbie mistake because the air slits were at the bottom of its case. How did I know as the only other gaming systems I had before were NES, Super NES, and the Sega Genesis. None of them had heating problems. Long story short, ever since that time I've always put my gaming systems out in the open or if they need to be inside an entertainment system cabinet like I have now, I make sure the compartments are big enough to allow good airflow. Heck, I even removed the stupid cardboard type backing for the entertainment system so that my DirecTV-Tivo HD-DVR, amplifier, gaming systems, etc will have free airflow at the back to expel heat. During summer, I direct a fan at them especially on whatever gaming system I'm playing at the moment. It's all about taking care of your electronics. With the power of these devices nowadays, overheating is a very possible cause of death. You just have to take precautions.


XboxAnon

@qwest.net
I also forgot to mention, I lay the gaming systems flat not standing up to make sure the gaming discs are spun horizontally as opposed to vertically which may cause scratches and what not on the discs.

Canezoid

join:2001-02-16
Powder Springs, GA
·Comcast

reply to Xbox360Blah
Totally agree. Had ours since 12/05, never had probs, but RROD'd back in Aug. , guess I consider us lucky having almost a 3 yr run.

Since I had nothing to loose, I went ahead and fixed myself. Since being familiar w/ building my own PC's, did some research and went to Youtube, watched some disassembly vids and OUILA, had the thing apart in about 1/2 hr.

Really it's not just the aspect of the GPU placement w/ the airflow, it's also the crappy heatsink Xclamps that are the main cause. Overtime as these things begin to bend, as that happens loss of continuity from the heatsinks to the CPU/GPU, hence the failures.

Once I had it open, w/ mobo pulled, cleaned of the CPU/GPU, placed new good quality thermal grease, pulled the Xclamp crap off, re-seated HSinks w/ new connectors and put back together. Been runnin great ever since. Total cost was $25 for parts, plus the learning experience. No $99 fee for Msoft to send back another "defective" unit.

Have recently done same thing to our PS3, boy talk about a monster, geesh.

Peace!

fadaguido

join:2002-09-29
Hudson, MA

reply to MystBlade
I got the new Xbox 360 Live mandatory update 11/19/2008 and while it did improve its graphics I think it just made it confusing. Now I have to think back to what is was in order to figure out how to navigate. Oh it appears that they fixed the second profile glitch issue at least thats my experience so far.
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fadaguido

join:2002-09-29
Hudson, MA

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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
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join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL
I'll say one thing about this NXE update. I was not interested in upgrading my Hard Drive before it, and now I am.


Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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said by cbrigante2 See Profile :

I'll say one thing about this NXE update. I was not interested in upgrading my Hard Drive before it, and now I am.
Yep. I didn't care that I didn't have a hard drive before, but now I'm glad I grabbed the 20GB.


cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL

said by Matt See Profile :

said by cbrigante2 See Profile :

I'll say one thing about this NXE update. I was not interested in upgrading my Hard Drive before it, and now I am.
Yep. I didn't care that I didn't have a hard drive before, but now I'm glad I grabbed the 20GB.
I'm wishing I had the 120GB right now for the game copies to quiet my box down a little bit.

thack57

join:2001-08-04
Westbrook, CT

reply to dks7
Bull! You're just a Sony lap dog lying about your 6 machines. I go to and am friends with guys who work there and they have a "ring of death" report in ages. If I wrong, I apologize in advanced, but I also read most of the gaming mags and have not read about this still happening. So either you pissed off the gaming gods, your store [where you buy your 360's]or you hate Microsot and are lying. I bought mine when it came out and had to swap out 2. That was about 3 yrs. ago. My son had to swap out 1 and that was about 2 1/2 years ago.


cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
Premium
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North Aurora, IL

said by thack57 See Profile :

Bull! You're just a Sony lap dog lying about your 6 machines. I go to and am friends with guys who work there and they have a "ring of death" report in ages. If I wrong, I apologize in advanced, but I also read most of the gaming mags and have not read about this still happening. So either you pissed off the gaming gods, your store [where you buy your 360's]or you hate Microsot and are lying. I bought mine when it came out and had to swap out 2. That was about 3 yrs. ago. My son had to swap out 1 and that was about 2 1/2 years ago.
I know of two on my friends list right now with RROD. Granted, they were a little bit older units, but I think almost every old unit will eventually have to be replaced with enough use.

nuahs79

join:2007-11-16
Orlando, FL

reply to Matt
I had an original 360 that I waited in line for 10 hours to get and it didn't get the RRD until about 2 1/2 years later. I had it in a wall unit with my receiver and I just didn't have adequate air flow which is what I attributed to the death of my first one. I replaced it, ripped off the heat sink and slapped some Artic Silver on there and an after market fan with USB readout to monitor the temps. When I play I play for 3 or 4 hours at a time and since getting better air flow and putting the aftermarket fan on I haven't had an issue.

nuahs79

join:2007-11-16
Orlando, FL

reply to MystBlade
I think the new Xbox Live is great and much more enjoyable then the old blade setup. The Netflix deal is also great so I don't have to mess with the buggy VMC plug-in to stream to my 360. The plug in still works great though if I want to use Media Center on my PC to watch movies instead of the Netflix player in my web browser.
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