TheRul
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Re: Average Salaries of I.T. Professionals
said by FutureMon  :said by TheRul :Yeah, but you always had an inflated sense of self, as I can see that has increased soo much that you needed a beard!  Good luck with the assement, it looks like they keep you hopping. My days of self-imposed modesty in the workplace are largely gone. I got tired of being stepped on, outsourced or having my work efforts plagiarized. - FM Should I tell Mercury about the Ideas I stole from you, then?
All I have to say about that is, IT's about time! |
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FutureMon
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| said by TheRul :said by FutureMon :said by TheRul :Yeah, but you always had an inflated sense of self, as I can see that has increased soo much that you needed a beard! Good luck with the assement, it looks like they keep you hopping. My days of self-imposed modesty in the workplace are largely gone. I got tired of being stepped on, outsourced or having my work efforts plagiarized. - FM Should I tell Mercury about the Ideas I stole from you, then? All I have to say about that is, IT's about time! I wasn't pointing my finger at you... In fact, Mercury was pretty good about that particular issue...it was previous companies where I worked with a lot of H1-B Visa holders... At Citibank, man, you'd better watch your back...but I suppose that's no more. I heard they closed down the Citibank Development Center a few years back...(They prolly outsourced the entire operation to India)
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TheRul
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Victorville, CA | I know you weren't pointing the finger at me. But it was funny damn it! |
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FutureMon
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2 edits | Well the review is over. And I quote "If it weren't for what you've done for us over the last year, we'd be out of business right now".
However, no promotion and no salary increase. They're afraid the I.T. contractor would quit on them if they made me manager...
Time for me to get a little more proactive in my job search.
- FM |
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JAAulde
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FutureMon
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| The owners called me into their office this morning. They wanted to re-address the review. Said they didn't go home with "warm fuzzies" about everything we had discussed and how it came out and that they didn't think I felt very good about it either...and told me I'd be receiving a 3% increase effective immediately, along with a move towards a management role over the next few months coupled with some training classes they want me to take... No real guarantees of promotion though.
They want me to know I'm valued and that they consider me a long term investment in the company. I guess they realized that by flipping me the bird in my review they were risking losing me...
So I feel a little bit better now. 3% is better than 0%... They showed up at my office and asked to talk with me as I was in the process of writing a rebuttal to my review that I was going to give them later today... 
- FM |
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JAAulde
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Hagerstown, MD | Well, that's better anyway. If times are tough for the company that's one thing. If they're spineless it's another. Glad they recognized their spinelessness and moved in a better direction.
Congrats. |
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FutureMon
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| Times aren't tough. In fact we're bringing 4 new clients online within the next 3 months (equating to tens of thousands of new "customers").
Our current infrastructure can't even handle what we have today, and I'm tasked with a migration effort from Access 2003 over to C#, Sql 2005 and .NET.
- FM |
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Kylemaul
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normat
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As far as software development goes (c#/Java) most of the the people I know tend to make anywhere from 70-110K base salary. Most are somewhat in the middle of that figure.
A bit depends on the company and how much they value their talent. The costs of outsourcing can be quite high and result in shoddy work. |
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GeekNJ
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I skimmed the thread and here's something to consider. You seem to be in a small company and there's no one representing you other then yourself.
If you feel you deserve an increase and from what I read, you are a valued employee, a discussion point could be what would it cost to replace me? So you don't want to say you're leaving, and asking that question might make them think hard.
With the above, forget the company knowledge/experience you have which can't be found on the street if you left. Mention it, but discuss finding someone that does networking, sysadmin work, DBA, application development and web development. It is usually harder to find those as many folks in the industry are more geared towards one or two specific areas and not a "one man shop". If they could find one person, how much would it cost them? If they needed 2, how much would that cost them?
I'm closer to the higher end of the IT ladder then the lower rungs and there are jobs out there even in this economy. The majority of companies might not be expanding, but folks are still switching jobs and if there aren't head count freezes, people need to be replaced. IT workers are already working at 100% so when someone leaves, if they aren't replaced, project work needs to be deferred and the business side of the company has a tough time dealing with not getting their project work done.
So I would always suggest to folks to keep their resume updated for a few reasons. First is you never know when you might need it because you've been let go. Another is that folks do a tremendous amount of work that over time they don't remember. If you constantly keep it updated with relevant material, you won't forget and you'll be prepared if an opportunities does come around that you might be interested in.
But remember, that if you're happy with what you're doing each day, that is worth a lot. If you got 20% more at another job and were miserable, was it a good decision? It wouldn't be a good decision for me.
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chrisretusn
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Here is some more data for you to ponder.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Wages by Area and Occupation
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FutureMon
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clubs: | Thanks for that link! For the specific city in which I live and work, it shows that I am somewhere around the 38th percentile in earnings for the single category of Computer Software Engineer (Applications)...
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