 mr_hexen
join:2007-08-02 Brampton, ON | reply to ultracat Re: CRTC ruling coming Thursday Nov 20
big surprise. |
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 alphaz18
join:2005-02-26 CANADA | reply to mlerner how can we show our discontent with this decision to the crtc in an uncivilized illegal manner? |
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  zaptor99
join:2004-05-02 Toronto, ON | reply to mlerner sad sad day |
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 ep80
join:2008-08-11 Montreal, QC | reply to mlerner This is disgusting! No doubt that the CRTC is runned by money from big companies...
Sad day for Canada is today |
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  kingb71
join:2000-10-09 Mississauga, ON | reply to mlerner Where do I sign up for the class action lawsuit? |
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 DabberDan
join:2004-11-15 Gatineau, ON | reply to zaptor99 They even state network congestion where Bell wasn't even able to prove it. Which proves either incompetency or they've been bought. |
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 ultracat
join:2008-01-30 Toronto, ON
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| reply to alphaz18 said by alphaz18 :how can we show our discontent with this decision to the crtc in an uncivilized illegal manner? By giving up? That's what I feel like doing at this point. Final conclusion: the Internet is fucked in this country. You can either spend the time and money to circumvent it yourself or move but don't expect the old boys club to release their grip on our money.
Keep you eyes on the "MLPPP is now throttled" thread. I'm sure that won't last too much longer now. |
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  Astonished
@teksavvy.com
| reply to zaptor99 !@$#$!#!!$#2%$$!!!
Proof positive that the CRTC is corrupt and in Bell's pocket!
The issue wasn't discriminatory throttling but violation of GAS tarifs which they clearly broke.
What can we do when the game is rigged?
$%#^#^#^##@$#$!!! |
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 alphaz18
join:2005-02-26 CANADA
| said by Astonished :
!@$#$!#!!$#2%$$!!!
Proof positive that the CRTC is corrupt and in Bell's pocket!
The issue wasn't discriminatory throttling but violation of GAS tarifs which they clearly broke.
What can we do when the game is rigged?
$%#^#^#^##@$#$!!! when the game is rigged, Cheat. only way. |
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 DabberDan
join:2004-11-15 Gatineau, ON | reply to zaptor99 And the CRTC is slow to react as well... July 09 for public hearings, that means we're still under this regime for a few more years. Come on! |
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  Adrian F
@terago.ca
| reply to zaptor99 This is indeed a sad day. It truly shows how deep Bell Canada is in the CRTC's back-pocket. And it also shows up how useless the CRTC truly is, as a regulatory body, in the modern world.
They need people in charge who actually understand what is happening. This is just one step further away, in the WRONG direction, from net-neutrality. If the CRTC wanted Bell to "open up its technology" for others, then those others should be allowed to do as they see fit.
I know Rocky commented that if it was a "worst-case scenario"-type ruling today that there were other avenues to explore but it still doesn't mean we're in a good spot what-so-ever.
The best thing I heard, unrelated, was Bell Canada's CSR telling me that ALL ISP's will have a 60GB cap in the new year! |
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  Quake110
join:2003-12-20 Ottawa, ON 1 edit | reply to zaptor99 We need an Obama in this country. It's no longer a free and just society regarding protecting the customers and the internet from big corporations.
The ISPs need a way to circumvent the throttling to all users. |
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 alphaz18
join:2005-02-26 CANADA | only way is to build out an open network infrastructure not "owned" by a single big corporation. |
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  mlerner Premium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON
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| reply to zaptor99 The big thing I'm concerned about is this is going to start a bad precedent. Bell will start thinking they can start throttling or "managing" the wholesale network.
In terms of illegal actions, I'll continue to download overseas content over the crap that the CRTC makes us fund. If they're not playing by the rules, why should we. |
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 ultracat
join:2008-01-30 Toronto, ON
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| reply to Quake110 Re: CRTC ruling coming Thursday Nov 20
said by Quake110 :We need an Obama in this country. It's no longer a free and just society regarding protecting the customers and the internet from big corporations. The ISPs need a way to circumemvent the throttling to all users. Well you've hit the nail on the head there. I often trash-talk Americans, but at least this year they voted out the Bush regime and voted in Obama for some change. At pretty much the same time, we decided to vote our Bush back into office (of course we didn't have a Canadian Obama to choose, and that was more than half the problem). |
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  oxymoron69
join:2004-11-10 Belleville, ON
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2 edits | reply to zaptor99 Hey Rocky, Now's about time for one of your famous inspirational forum speeches where you yell things at us to angry up the blood, and tell us you'll make everything okay.... well, once you're done smashing things, I could see how this might make you angrier than most 
But when you're ready, we could really use some direction so we know what to plan for or who you want your minions (us) to go yell at.
**edit, one guy says the situation calls for rage and anger** |
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 Radar73
join:2008-01-20 Ajax, ON | reply to zaptor99 Bell changes the terms of a regulated tariff without permission from the CRTC and without notifying the subscribers of GAS and the CRTC says that it's just fine with that. What a joke. |
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 45578933
join:2008-10-13 canada
| reply to oxymoron69 said by oxymoron69 :Hey Rocky, Now's about time for one of your famous inspirational forum speeches where you calm us down, and tell us you'll make everything okay.... well, once you're done smashing things, I could see how this might make you angrier than most  But when you're ready, we could really use some direction so we know what to plan for or who you want your minions (us) to go yell at. Screw calming people down. Angry is what we need. |
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  Sempronius
join:2008-09-18 Toronto, ON | reply to mlerner The CRTC sides with Bell everytime. Unbelievable! So much for the Internet being a free and open source. The CRTC is just delaying the process as long as possible to give Bell more power and contol over wholesalers. |
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