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Re: Good memory + Vista = A bad deal?

ok Mr. Bird:

1: It isn't a "problem" having 4GB of RAM, you CAN install it. However, as you can find out doing a search in this forum, 32 bit operating systems have a 4GB limit with memory "addressing". Now, since part of what is addressed with 4GB of RAM is all of your hardware, such as your video card, you will see significantly less RAM available for actual use, say, 3.4 GB will be available, or even less, due to the hardware addressing on a 32 bit OS.

The solution, then? Run a 64 bit OS. Since there are 64 bits to addressing with such an OS, you can install much more RAM (I forget how much, but it is a lot more) and the RAM will appear available for use. HOWEVER: YOU MUST HAVE A PROCESSOR that WILL WORK WITH A 64 BIT OS. This means that if your system is quite old, you might not have the option.

2: It has nothing to do with the MEMORY sticks themselves, but the CPU and the OS's addressing size (32 or 64 bit).

3: It has nothing to do with the mainboard except as far as which processor works on it.

4: What is the current "standard" memory? Answer: No such thing as a "standard" memory. Older systems use DDR (such as my AMD Athlon 64 Toledo DFI Lanparty Mainboard, which is no longer for sale). MOST current mainboards have chipsets that implement DDR2 (is that what you mean by "standard"?), and such mainboards will ONLY run DDR2 with only a very small few running the old DDR or the latest DDR3, such mainboards are called "hybrid boards" and are generally not the best choice when comparing boards.

Now: Due to the newest Intel and upcoming AMD processors and their respective latest mainboard chipsets, some mainboards will use DDR3 and ONLY DDR3, which is more expensive than DDR2. In fact, such mainboards are for serious enthusiasts with large budgets only.

5: No.

6: What is for you, Mr. Bird, is a board that best suits YOUR needs. The first thing you choose when building a new system is the CPU and respective mainboard CHIPSET! Then you chose a mainboard WITH that CHIPSET that is satisfactory. Then the other parts are chosen in succession.

For instance, Let's say you choose one of the latest or soon to come out new Intel processors, well, you would want to compare chipsets for it, and find a mainboard with said chipset. An example of a chipset is the P45 chipset, go spend some time and read about it, you will learn a lot. Use Google.
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Thank you for that excellent post.

Here is a DDR3 compatible mobo in a very reasonable price range.

With a P45 chipset, so it avoids Nvidia and nForce, which have sometimes been annoying for me.

Do you think this is any good with DDR3? -- It's unclear from the Newegg info if this can handle a 64-bit OS.

All the credible customer reviews (5/6 of them) have been quite good.
One would think there should be more reviews however. -- That is a bit odd.

Best regards, Ugly

Edit: Yes, this board appears to support 64 bit oS.

• »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13131344
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I believe that board is a nice choice. And yes, it supports a 64 bit OS, since the processor that goes on it is a 64.
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