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Re: Technical differences? said by beatsnpieces:said by DabberDan:What are the technical differences of me saturating my line with HTTP download(s) vs. a P2P download(s)? P2P saturates the download AND upload while HTTP only saturates the downstream. That is my understanding of it anyhow. Okay... but if I want to be able to surf while doing P2P, I don't have a choice to limit the upstream, which I do. So, in theory, it only saturates the downstream.
How about the amount of connections/packets?
We got to put this in lamens terms to make this whole thing look even more absurd to the non-technical public. | |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | said by DabberDan:said by beatsnpieces:said by DabberDan:What are the technical differences of me saturating my line with HTTP download(s) vs. a P2P download(s)? P2P saturates the download AND upload while HTTP only saturates the downstream. That is my understanding of it anyhow. Okay... but if I want to be able to surf while doing P2P, I don't have a choice to limit the upstream, which I do. So, in theory, it only saturates the downstream. How about the amount of connections/packets? We got to put this in lamens terms to make this whole thing look even more absurd to the non-technical public. The issue in addition to bandwidth usage is in the number of simultaneous connections. (sessions) An HTTP session may open several (3-5) connections, but they are closed relatively quickly.
However, a Bittorrent session floods an ISPs network with 100 (uTorrent's default value) sessions PER TORRENT and they are held open until the torrent session is done. Then of course, you have to add in the DHT sessions/connections and the users who think if they increase that limit to 6000 or so, it will help them download their torrents faster. | |  boast join:2005-09-03 Miami, FL | so if everyone switched to usenet, ISPs would be happy? | |  | reply to Matt Good write up on the tech differences here:
»CRTC Ruling or not, Bell's ignorance is the problem | |  | Thanks I appreciate the mention devnuller. Unfortunate, that in the other news item, people were apparently unwilling to consider my arguments. I must state right off the bat that throttling internet connections, be they Bell or Teksavvy customers, is NOT the solution. The only workable solution in my mind is to limit user CONNECTIONS, to reasonable levels, say no more than 40 at one time.
Limiting connections will reduce network loads considerably. As for the issue of DPI boxes, I don't wish to sound arrogant, but come on, Google monitors and stores EVERY bit of data you fling their way, and I don't hear you screaming bloody murder. Or what about Phorm? Except for a select group of DSL report members, it seems you have largely ignored that issue as well.
The business like tactics Bell has used are just that, BUSINESS tactics. As with all corporations, money is ALWAYS the bottom line issue, and as such a company will and does do everything in its power to garnish the largest profits it can.
As for you Harper nay-sayers, may I ask : What does Harper have to do with any of this? We are talking about the actions of a company formed and ruled by laws established YEARS before Harper was PM. The behavior of the CRTC is simply corrupt politics. You don't need to be a Conservative to be a corrupt politician (*cough* Federal sponsorship scandal anyone? *cough*). In the grand scope of Federal government, the issues of Bell vs Teksavvy are both petty and insignificant. With looming economic issues on the horizon, do you really expect the government to seriously deal with these issues? Harper or not, 'net neutrality is and for the foreseeable future on the back bench.
One last word. If you TRULY do not like the actions of your government, why in blazes are you complaining about it here? It is your responsibility, both to yourself and your country to take your thoughts and objections to your government. I'm getting mighty tired of this behind the back complaining, yet when you have the opportunity to have your say, you clam up and conform to the masses.
Put up or shut up as they say
Regards, and best wishes all,
Raff | | |
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