wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·BroadVoice
| [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! I came home from work, and there was a FIOS "tent" set up in my lobby (I live in Manhattan). I walked over to check out what the deal was, and lo and behold they had just completed a building wide FIOS install (there are 300 apartments in my building). Naturally I chatted up the sales guy, and (prepare yourself) I ordered the service! I got 20/5 internet, and every possible channel available on FIOS TV. They gave me a multiroom DVR, as well as a second box for another room. The deal seemed really good, with a total charge (for everything, including all movie and premium channels, as well as the DVR's) of $79.99 per month. I even got $20 off per month for the first 3 months (making it $59.99 per month), so I was happy.
Enough of my rambling, here is my question. What equipment will they provide me with? The sales guy told me it comes with a wireless router, however I dont want it. Does their interface equipment provide a simple RJ45 that I can just connect into my existing network? I dont want to have a VZ controlled piece of equipment managing my network, as I have multiple devices connected and I like to set permissions. Any advice, what should I do to prepare for the install?
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Rothan Tik
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join:2000-11-07
Danvers, MA | Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! I'd suggest sifting through the forum FAQ about the Verizon provided router & alternate configs. Lots of helpful info. | |
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
Premium
join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! said by wifi4milez  :There isnt much information about the configuration I will be getting. Keep in mind that NYC FIOS installs are a brand new animal, as its not fiber direct to each tenant. Apparently they use bendable fiber to a common area, and then come into your apartment via coax (although I cant confirm this yet). I was hoping someone had insight into if I will be getting different equipment, and what that might be. Sometimes FAQ's dont always have what you need, hence my post here. Most that I have seen are fiber to each apartment. They put an ONT is an out of the way place, possibly a closet, and put the power unit near an outlet.
You can get ethernet or MOCA depending on the tech and your insistence.
The Verizon router is necessary to run the coax through for the channel guides. | |
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UofMiamiGrad
Premium
join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY | It is either fiber to your unit with your own ONT or you are VDSL. I suggest you doing a search for whatever installation application is being used for your building. Good luck! | |
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| centc408
join:2008-11-08
Fort Wayne, IN | Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! With FiOS you cannot and do not use VDSL or any other *DSL technologies. | |
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Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! said by centc408 :With FiOS you cannot and do not use VDSL or any other *DSL technologies. Some MDUs do use VDSL over the standard copper pair. The MDU ONT goes in a common area and the existing coax and phone wires carry it all. | |
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join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS!
Management or custodians should know if it's all installed in a Utility room, or if they ran conduit to the unit in the halls. If you didn't notice anything, and there's no new wall plate in the apartment, or corner molding running around the ceilings in the halls, then you'll probably get VDSL from common ONTs. They serve 8 units each, IIRC. How many units per floor do you have? | |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! said by Rattler :If other tenants have FiOS, and you are on good terms with them  , check out their install(s). In addition to the router, there will be a VDSL modem. If they have their own fiber connection, there will be an ONT/BBU in their unit. FIOS was literally not available until this past Thursday, and in fact even on the Verizon website my building still only shows DSL (in the address qualifier tool). For this reason nobody has been installed yet, although the sales guy told me over 40 apartments signed up with him.
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centc408
join:2008-11-08
Fort Wayne, IN | Just an FYI there bundled prices don't include the prices for the STB's for that you gotta add $59.99+$19.99+5.99=85.97(not including taxes) | |
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! said by Rattler :With all the publicity about that posted around here, that policy will probably disappear soon. Just imagine what the rest of us peons have to say about it since we've been paying the piper for months...  Yes, but we've had the service longer than that. Now that Verizon is trying to open the floodgates on getting installs completed, they may be turning the corner from "anything to keep the first-adopters happy" to "whatever, just get it in".
I predict you'll see increasing frequency of less-flexible installs. | |
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asda
@verizon.net | the 625 ont is vdsl
the 621 ont is ethernet - just like the 611 but not in the unit | |
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Light Guy
join:2006-05-12
Somerville, NJ
| VDSL installations are usually not done in rental buildings, but in condo/co-op buildings. This way the cost to power up the common equipment is passed on to the co-op/condo association and not the landlord.
This does not mean that all condo/co-ops will not have there own ONT. I am not familiar with High-Rise condo/co-ops and Fios. In rentals, micro-ducts are placed in each unit often requiring access to units directly below and above your unit. This is done ahead of time and the fiber is pulled after you order.
There is some discussion in this thread »FCC Consumer Laws granting equal access to FIOS? about the need to have a maintenance man present while contractors run the micro-duct. I believe it was mentioned that in some cases track molding is used in the hallways and the final penetration to the unit is done after the service is ordered. | |
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spooky2
join:2007-09-20
Kissimmee, FL
| VZ CSR: May I help you?
Customer: Yes, I'd like to get the free STBs for my account, please.
VZ CSR: Pardon me?
Customer: You know - your new policy to give away the STBs.
VZ CSR: Our what??
Customer: Your new policy. I read about it on a website - actually it was an article cross-posted from another website stating an anonymous tipster from VZ said you would be giving out STBs if we asked for them.
VZ CSR: Really??
Customer: Well, not really - we're supposed to whine first before you give them to us.
VZ REP: Are you from "Crank Yankers?"
Customer: Certainly not. I'm calling about an official Verizon policy that has been published on the internet. Can't you just do your job or do I have to ask for your superior?
VZ REP: (muffled voices/laughter heard) Tell you what - my supervisor said if you want free boxes, then you need to get ahold of your anonymous source & have them give them to you. Have a nice day.....(click) | |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR | Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! EXCELLENT! 
(Can't stop laughing  ) | |
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Rattler
join:2001-04-13
Havertown, PA | Spooky2...
That says it all! ROFLMAO! | |
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nycnetwork
join:2000-11-12
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: [northeast] Just ordered my FIOS! wifi4milez : Which part of Manhattan do you live at? I hope you dont mind me asking. Or at least which area, cause as far as I know, only the area close to Rosevelt Island had FioS.
Great news, nonetheless. | |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Thoughts anyone? | |
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UofMiamiGrad
Premium
join:2001-02-03
Great Neck, NY | I have my own ONT in my condo unit. Regardless, I use a WRT54G router with Cat 5 from the ONT with the 20/20 package. I have no issues at all and get 20/20 both wired and wirelessly. | |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| 
Here is the vent that the fiber was pulled through | 
It was then run along the moldings | 
He then drilled into my apartment from the hallway and ran the fiber in | 
The ONT was installed in a closet |
After he (VZ tech) ran the fiber from the vent along the molding, he then drilled a hole in the wall (from the hallway) into a closet in my apartment. He then ran the fiber through two interior closets, to a location that he installed the ONT. From there he used the existing coax that was in place to connect to an Actiontek router in my living room. This feeds both my (internal) router as well as the set top box in this room. He installed a splitter, and then used more (existing) coax to feed the set top box in my bedroom.
Before he left I ran some speed tests (wireless), and I was getting around 23Mbps/5.5Mbs so I was very pleased. We had some issues getting the set top box to work with my HD television, however I sorted it all out after he left. Overall I am very happy, my only issue is that I need to learn the location of all my favorite channels!
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