Yonsil
join:2008-02-21
Fort Erie, ON
 ·Cogeco Cable
 ·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Things to give up if we're capped
First, it would be my family's digital TV (wooping $52+tax saving)
Second, it would be our TV itself.
Third, give up DSL and move to Cogeco--cable (better than anything...seriously...so much better than Bell or Rogers or Primus for that matter).
what would YOU give up? |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | the internet if i ever see UBB |
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gonner
@teksavvy.com | reply to Yonsil
#1, DSL..
I'd go straight to Rogers.. 10 meg is much nicer than a crappy 6 that goes down if the wind blows the wrong way.. |
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pnjunction
Teksavvy Premium
join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Yonsil
I don't really follow your logic here.
Why would you give up TV if we get a cap on DSL?
I could see 'giving up' on DSL and switching to cable, but what does it have to do with TV? (other than switching away from Bell TV if you have it out of spite) |
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OnmyHonorSir
@teksavvy.com
| reply to Yonsil
I'd give up DSL and go back to 56K. No sense in paying 40 bucks for a cap.
I'd suspect a few whackjobs would go after Rocky if he ever betrayed his customers like that..but the good news is, he wouldn't ever betray his customers like that. So, no worries!  |
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Guy Incognito
@teksavvy.com | reply to Yonsil
It's not Rocky who would do the betraying it is Bell who is trying to impose caps onto independent ISPs even though they already paid for the bandwidth. Double dipping. |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | I couldn't give up anything. I'm stuck in between a rock and a rock. No other options besides DSL that I can use and definitely not Sympatico. |
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David_T
TSI, here I am
join:2006-09-01
Oakville, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to Yonsil
Give up?
So if this happens, all of you are just *poof* out of it, done?
I for one would be sticking with TekSavvy. Every other ISP in Canada already imposes ridiculously low caps anyways, so what would change? I would rather support a company that is fighting against the caps and is being forcefully regulated rather than an big ISP that voluntarily caps my connection and supports regulated connections. |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | The over all situation with broadband in North America is pathetic at best. It is quite sad. Depending on where you live it is either a monopoly or a duopoly and a total lack of options. |
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MikeA1972
join:2008-02-06
Brantford, ON | reply to Yonsil
I'm still not throttled, and not with Bell or Teksavvy. No need for mlppp here.. no cap either. Just lucky I guess. |
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Bellundo
@teksavvy.com | reply to Yonsil
YouTube high definition because of minuscule caps and not enough bandwidth to handle the feed because of speed throttling. |
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EUS
Kill cancer
Premium
join:2002-09-10
Montreal, QC
clubs: 
·ELECTRONICBOX
edit:
November 22nd, @12:42PM
| reply to David_T
I somewhat disagree.
Every person that does ditch dsl, and states the reason, whether it's throttling, or caps, becomes another piece of evidence against bell and their anti-competitive behavior.
I'm pricing out cable services, and it will cost me $20-25/month more to bundle & replace tele/internet (static ip, no caps, no port blocking)/tv. I don't want my ISP to suffer, but I am no longer willing to give bell anymore $$$ through them for anything.
The consumer is the real victim here. |
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grayfox
join:2007-12-10
Whitby, ON
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Yonsil
I probably wouldn't ditch anything.
Assuming its 60GB per line for the cap like bell I would just buy another line from teksavvy.
With a single 6meg line I do about 80GB a month, with two I do around 120GB typically, with 3 I would probably only do around 150GB.
I would have a total of 180GB to work with, and even my most bandwidth intensive month so far I only used just under 160GB.
I use my connection for renting movies on my xbox 360 (720P & 480P) from xbox marketplace on a weekly basis. (selection is getting a bit lackluster new movies aren't added often enough) (I wouldn't use the buy option since there infected with microsoft DRM renting is the only time I consider DRM acceptable)
I torrent tv shows when I miss episodes, And I torrent anime (Theres a severe lack of it on microsoft marketplace however I buy series I enjoyed on dvd when I go to anime conventions), Im planing on checking out itunes and investing in a apple tv if the selection is better for tv shows and anime.
I would have liked to use bells movie store... Until those bastards started throttling bit torrent on my teksavvy connection (I still had a bell connection too at that time).
The throttling done by bell is truly not acceptable and its a blatant violation of network neutrality. Caps however I wouldn't be complaining about as much and I wouldn't have canceled all my bell services (just internet). |
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AdrianF
join:2008-11-21
Scarborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Yonsil
Hmm... I'm thinking the Internet altogether but I'm gonna backtrack first and some may be a little OT. Appologies in advance...
Right now, I have an issue paying $75+tax a month for my Cable (and that's Robbers VIP with all of the HD channels - save for TMN - one HD PVR and a second HD Terminal).
My thought was to eliminate cable altogether to save myself $85 after tax, and then spend an extra $10/month for "unlimited" internet with TSI. Even if I have to download the odd TV show that I watch, the HD quality in an MKV container far surpasses what Robbers delivers to my home.
I just ran into a big issue with Hell. I would be "allowed" to keep my grandfathered, uncapped, internet connection with them if I was to pay $54.95 + tax a month(!!). I can have the same thing with TSI for $15/month less, however, Hell couldn't even give me a "match" on that because the plan was no longer in their profile. That gave me an option of "upgrading" (as their CSRs kept calling it) to their "Performance Internet" plan @ 34.95/month (60GB cap) on a contract of MAx 10 @ $41.95 (100GB cap) on a contract. I had 6 meg service on my line with Hell as well so neither of those sounded very inviting - so I say to heck with it and switched to TSI.
If it turns out that I'm going to have a 60GB cap with TSI as a result of Hell's "business plan for making a better internet" then I'm gonna say f**k it and disconnect my net connection, too.
Robbers has CRAP internet service; on the two occasions I tried to switch to them (if even free because Hell had been on strike and screwed up my land line/DSL order on a move), my speeds equaled that of dial-up at best! That and Robbers Customer Service sucks. So given the choice of not being able to use DSL and moving to cable internet, I'm gonna say screw it altogether and not even bother. I just can't see myself moving back to those b*stards, anyhow. |
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H2Z
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Yonsil
Considering I'll probably need Peer1 hosting for my future TV channel, and considering I live only a couple of blocks away from the Montreal Peer1 datacenter, I'll probably create my own mini ISP with minimum 10 Mbps up/down speeds and no caps.
Sorry Rocky! |
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AdrianF
join:2008-11-21
Scarborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by milnoc  :Considering I'll probably need Peer1 hosting for my future TV channel, and considering I live only a couple of blocks away from the Montreal Peer1 datacenter, I'll probably create my own mini ISP with minimum 10 Mbps up/down speeds and no caps. Sorry Rocky! Umm... good luck. You'll have a 60GB cap placed on your own indie ISP, too.  |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to milnoc
iWeb is far cheaper as far as colo services are concerned, and has Peer1 on-site. Their neutral racks ($399 for a half cab) include a crossconnect to their meet-me room, where you can get a pipe with Peer1.
Or you can just buy into the general mix for what I'd imagine is a significantly lower cost. Or you could even just negotiate with cogent :P |
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DSL_Ricer
Premium
join:2007-07-22
| reply to AdrianF
said by AdrianF :Umm... good luck. You'll have a 60GB cap placed on your own indie ISP, too. Not quite. I believe milnoc was thinking of collocating a dslam too. Therefor bypassing all of bell's equipment. |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by DSL_Ricer :said by AdrianF :Umm... good luck. You'll have a 60GB cap placed on your own indie ISP, too. Not quite. I believe milnoc was thinking of collocating a dslam too. Therefor bypassing all of bell's equipment. Shouldn't you be at the meeting? :P |
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AdrianF
join:2008-11-21
Scarborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to DSL_Ricer
said by DSL_Ricer :Not quite. I believe milnoc was thinking of collocating a dslam too. Therefore bypassing all of bell's equipment. I stand corrected. Now if only I lived that close...  |
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