mmr1
join:2004-11-23
UK
| per second billing Any ideas of voip provider with one or six second billing, I have webacall which seems to have closed down even though the website is still up and running, they were one second increments then I have voip.ms with six second billing. Any other ideas? | |
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | Re: per second billing »www.grnvoip.com bills in 1/1 increments, but the only posts I've ever been able to find about them were unfavorable. | |
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gbh2o
join:2000-12-18
Greenville, NC | voip.ms uses 6 seconds billing increment.
I believe Future-Nine bills in 6 second increments for their Bare Essentials plan only. | |
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 | nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
 ·ViaTalk
 ·Comcast
| Re: per second billing Our rates are significantly lower than most companies that bill in 1-second increments, however we bill our customers in 1-minute increments. We bill our plan minutes (free minutes) 60/1 (minimum 60 sec, per-second beyond 60 seconds) however minutes beyond the plan are billed per-minute.
Why? because a $0.0005 profit from a call is not enough to stay in business. Maybe that's why webacall went out of a business. 
My personal experience with webacall a couple of years ago was that they were very cheap - but quality sucked so I stopped using them.
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Future Nine Corporation | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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mmr1
join:2004-11-23
UK | thanks for all the posts unfortunately vitelity charges a minimum 30 secs, interesting to see how little choice there is. | |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| Re: per second billing said by mmr1  :interesting to see how little choice there is. I'm not aware of any POTS long distance provider that offers 1 second call rounding. this is more a function of billing systems (6 seconds = .1 minutes, which is easy to display and explain) than wanting to rip off customers. then again, VOIP providers may not get the info from their upstream providers to be able to bill in individual seconds, and their deals are most likely in 6 second increments. and let's not forget that carriers have to be profitable to survive. | |
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| soitgoes2
Premium
join:2005-01-14
·Future Nine Corpor..
| Even in the POTS world, an initial increment of 18 or 30 seconds is the norm with 6-second billing.
The advantage of 1 second billing over 6 second billing is really pretty minor--after all we're talking about paying in .017 versus .1 minute increments.
While I would prefer to be billed in 6 second increments than 1 minute increments, I recognize that the first priority (based on my calling patterns) should be the per minute rate. | |
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| | kieranmullen
Premium
join:2005-12-12
Portland, OR
clubs: | Re: per second billing When I was in charge of another businesses telecom system 8 years ago.... .06 second billing was the norm. Everyone else was just getting hosed. | |
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mmr1
join:2004-11-23
UK | my most common reason is that cellphones which revert to voicemail end up costing a mint even if one hangs up immediately | |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| Re: per second billing sounds like you're referring to calling to cell phones outside the US where the caller pays the airtime. if that's the case, you'll be out of luck, as no provider will leave themselves open to losing money on every one of your calls. that's why there are minimums. if your chums have text messaging, can you text them and ask for a call back? here in the states, most of the cell providers have an online page to send text messages for free to their subscribers. perhaps the cell providers overseas also have such a capability. | |
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| nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27 | Re: per second billing Both of these are not intended for residential customers. Other Betamax services are, if you want to go Betamax...
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Future Nine Corporation | |
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Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
| Re: per second billing VT doesn't have customer service - they simply ignore you.
Aside from that, $500 deposits are way WAY too much for a residential customer who makes the occasional call overseas. People don't usually purchase 5 years worth of calling credit in advance.  | |
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Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
| Re: per second billing said by kieranmullen :You can't put them down and at the same type neither confirm or deny that you use them. I can. And I will.
Anyway, it's past bedtime apparently, good night! | |
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ezcallguy
join:2008-11-28
New York, NY
| grnvoip.com offers 1-second billing for US calls at $.012 per minute, or 6-second billing at $.01 per minute. you can also get a bonus of 2%-7% for payments over $100.
other good features:
- no rtp proxy for better QoS
- unlimited channel capacity with a single account
- 24x7x365 tech support
- toll free numbers are connected at no charge
other bad features:
- only outbound pstn termination (no DIDs) | |
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