| They should be Fired Invasion of privacy is no laughing matter. Fire all of them. Every keystroke at a company that handles sensitive information is tracked. I'd have fired them day 2. Anyone that accessed the account, unless they chatted with Obama, would be out the door. Good way to get your company sued.
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Jonbo298
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Council Bluffs, IA | Did you even read the article or the headline for that matter. They DID fire the ones who had no authorization to access the account. |
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Franklin, TN | said by Jonbo298:Did you even read the article or the headline for that matter. They DID fire the ones who had no authorization to access the account. They did, but give a few minutes and others here will chime in that it's unfair that Obama gets "special treatment" when compared to the warrant less wiretapping laws. The fact is, Obama would have never known about it, from what I've read, Verizon discovered the issue, not Obama, the Secret Service, or anyone else for that matter.
So Verizon discovered people abusing access and took care of the matter. Verizon wanted to get some PR and decided to tell the entire world instead of just notifying Obama like they did, fire those responsible and just let drama no longer continue.
Instead, we keep hearing about this over and over, made out to be some serious security breach when it's nothing more than employees breaking the rules and getting fired over it.
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Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun
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said by Jonbo298:Did you even read the article or the headline for that matter. I wouldn't expect anything less from a grown man who calls himself supergirl. |
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Tucson, AZ | reply to supergirl
Funny how one would reasonably expect the same to apply in reverse, yet it doesn't.
It seems, more and more, that a reasonable expectation of privacy is a luxury which only applies to celebrities and criminals (politicians fit under the latter, of course).
How ironic then that Obama voted for teleco immunity after saying he wouldn't. I guess it's ok for the government to spy on the people, but not the people to spy on the government. Even more ironic, considering that one is suppliant to the other (namely, the government is suppliant to the people, not the other way around. The burden is on them to prove their service to the public good, not the other way around.)
Perhaps it's due to the gullibility of the average voter that there isn't enough public scrutiny to require high-ranking political officials to disclose a bunch of personal information (of which phone records would be one) before becoming an elected official.
Employees accessing political records isn't a laughing matter, but there's been plenty personal information snooping from both sides (*cough* palin *cough*) to go around this election.
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to supergirl
said by supergirl:I'd have fired them day 2. Anyone that accessed the account, unless they chatted with Obama, would be out the door. Good way to get your company sued. Another good way to get your company sued is to wrongfully terminate someone, even in at-will employment situations. Verizon most likely had to do a thorough internal investigation to ensure that all of the culprits were found and terminated and that no one else was punished.
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Meanwhile when state employers checked the backgrounds of Joe the Plumber because he was thrust into the spotlight, what happened? Poor Joe for asking a valid question to Obama. |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by cardingtr:Meanwhile when state employers checked the backgrounds of Joe the Plumber because he was thrust into the spotlight, what happened? Poor Joe for asking a valid question to Obama. They were suspended with pay.
I would presume that would be to allow an investigation to be done, but to the casual observer, it sounds more like paid time off instead.
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Forest, OH | Editorial in local paper says that the political hack isn't being fired. |
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LOL This got my laughing so hard! Nice one!  |
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said by Nuts65:Editorial in local paper says that the political hack isn't being fired. I'm not surprised considering which party runs Ohio at the moment.
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join:2003-05-31
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Fire all of them.
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Anyone that accessed the account, unless they chatted with Obama, would be out the door.
Directly quoted from the News link which was posted by the OP. Did you see it?
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Verizon Wireless has fired employees connected to a breach of records from a cell phone used by President-elect Barack Obama this year, a Verizon source said Friday.
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Verizon Wireless, meanwhile, has launched a separate internal investigation to determine whether Obama's information was shared only among employees or whether "the information of our customer had in any way been compromised outside our company, and this investigation continues," McAdam said in an internal e-mail obtained by CNN.
The company has alerted "the appropriate federal law enforcement authorities," McAdam said.
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Ouote - "This new Department of Homeland Security has the power to wiretap any American it wants, without a court order, without cause and without justification to any higher authority. Homeland Security goon squads will have the power to enter any American home, without a search warrant, without probable cause, simply because someone somewhere says “hey, this guy might be a threat.” No checks and balances, no due process. Nothing."
»www.commondreams.org/views02/1121-03.htm
Quote - "Congress: probe "targeting" of American citizens by vigilantes hiding behind government-funded programs."
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said by Warez_Zealot:said by Jonbo298:Did you even read the article or the headline for that matter. I wouldn't expect anything less from a grown man who calls himself supergirl. What?!!!!! Supergirl is a guy?
And ALL Verizon employees (me included) are/were forced to sign a policy that states which accounts you can look at and which ones you can't. You even have to watch a training film where there is a family (of actors)at Thanksgiving dinner and Joey the VZ employee asks his brother Mikey to look up call details on his girlfriend because he thinks she is cheating.
The mother thinks it is ok to do. Camera stops and we were asked to vote who was right and who was wrong.
So bottom line, you are told "do not look at accounts you do not have permission to look at" or face termination.
Ever notice that they ask you "do I have permission to view your account"......
So I saw people fired for accessing their relatives accounts, friends etc. The Obama issue is no different.
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if they come into my house with no warrant they better make peace with their maker. I have an unalienable right to pursue peace and happiness and no GOVERNMNENT will take that away from me. That is a God (Goddess) give right of mine to exist. I will take doen as many of them before I am taken down. |
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said by NY Tel:The employees were incredibly stupid. And their employer is required to file a CPNI violation as detailed here »www.fcc.gov/eb/CPNI/Report.html .
FWIW a violation of CPNI is an escort out the door kinda thing no second chances no forgiveness.
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said by knightmb:The fact is, Obama would have never known about it, from what I've read, Verizon discovered the issue, not Obama, the Secret Service, or anyone else for that matter. Not so as Verizon once they discovered the problem is required to notify the subscriber in this case that being Obama or someone responsible for that account.
Wayne
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