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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
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several caveats...

1. Telco gets serious about FTTP / deep fiber and competing on price / value.
2. Consumer demand for high speed applications (video, sure.. but what else?)
3. Economic viability (ability for consumers to afford the rates which are just about guaranteed to be over $100/month by the time they achieve such capability).
4. Cable companies must be able to protect their content or evolve their business model... do you really think they're gonna unleash 1gbit and kill their existing Cable-Tv business without a way to make up that revenue? I don't think so.

decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
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PolarBear
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3. Economic viability (ability for consumers to afford the rates which are just about guaranteed to be over $100/month by the time they achieve such capability).
When I had Comcast in 2005, I paid $62.95 for 8/1. Now that same $62.95 gets you 20/5 with Comcast.

The speeds they are offering have kept up with bandwidth demand so far. The only reason I could see for your prediction to come true is if everyone started using their connection for a TV pipe, and the cablecos charged more to make up for lost TV revenue. But if that happened, the consumer wouldn't be paying for separate TV service anymore, so the bill for both TV and internet would still be the same.
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said by PolarBear See Profile :

said by tmc8080 See Profile :

3. Economic viability (ability for consumers to afford the rates which are just about guaranteed to be over $100/month by the time they achieve such capability).
The only reason I could see for your prediction to come true is if everyone started using their connection for a TV pipe, and the cablecos charged more to make up for lost TV revenue. But if that happened, the consumer wouldn't be paying for separate TV service anymore, so the bill for both TV and internet would still be the same.
If all TV content starts being delivered over the internet, you can bet your life that the cost will increase to deliver internet access. Cable companies subsidize the infrastructure costs with their cable TV revenues. Lose that and they will have to raise the price of internet access to cover the now unsubsidized costs. Will the "TV over internet only" price be less than the existing combo price of internet/cable TV - Yes. But it will never be as low as the currently subsidized price of internet access.
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When I had Comcast in 2005, I paid $62.95 for 8/1. Now that same $62.95 gets you 20/5 with Comcast.
I remember when Optimum Online was the fastest thing around with 10/1 speeds for $49.95/month (up from the original $39.95). Now we get 15/2 for the same price and they are no longer the speed leaders for your average user unless you pay extra for "Boost".
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If all TV content starts being delivered over the internet, you can bet your life that the cost will increase to deliver internet access. Cable companies subsidize the infrastructure costs with their cable TV revenues. Lose that and they will have to raise the price of internet access to cover the now unsubsidized costs. Will the "TV over internet only" price be less than the existing combo price of internet/cable TV - Yes. But it will never be as low as the currently subsidized price of internet access.
If cable MSO's want to raise internet rates marginally to recoup lost CATV subscribers, BRING IT ON!! By all means, if a $10-$15 increase in my monthly internet cost gives me truly unlimited service, complete with EITHER truly uncapped bandwidth, or REASONABLE caps and overages, I'm all ears. I for one have NO problem if Comcast and other companies embrace the "dumb pipe" model. It's basically like the ala-carte enthusiasts' dreams come true...


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said by tmc8080 See Profile :

3. Economic viability (ability for consumers to afford the rates which are just about guaranteed to be over $100/month by the time they achieve such capability).
When I had Comcast in 2005, I paid $62.95 for 8/1. Now that same $62.95 gets you 20/5 with Comcast.
VIDEO subsidizes HSI as it does on every cable provider.
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PolarBear
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And I assume by that you mean that since there would be no more video service, the cost of HSI would be dramatically higher. And you're right. But as I said above,
said by PolarBear See Profile :

if that happened, the consumer wouldn't be paying for separate TV service anymore, so the bill for both TV and internet would still be the same.
Yes the price of HSI would go up, but the price of video would be zero. So essentially, you'd be getting the same two services (just via different delivery methods) and paying the same amount (for example $120 for both services together instead of $60 for each service separately.
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