 ARGONAUTgot ping?Premium
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New Albany, IN | Old School I still like having that factory CD in my hands and it's been proven that blank CD-Rs have a shortened lifespan. |
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 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
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kudos:1 | I rarely buy music in a brick & mortar store anymore. I'm pretty satisfied with my experience buying music from iTunes.
As far as burning songs to CD-R's, I rarely do that either. The nav system in my Silverado has connectivity to both my iPod and Satellite radio, so the DVD drive in the navigation unit is used really only for the navi DVD...
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amungusPremium
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Yes, indeed they do. CD-Rs might last a few years, they might last 50, it depends on their quality. Most that are made in Taiwan these days, for instance, are about the lowest quality that allows for them to even work... I'd be surprised if those last five years.
Factory discs are supposed to endure for ~100 years in proper conditions.
Vinyl trumps all (storage time, sound quality, and full size art), however, and is still my preferred format  |
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 nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | said by amungus:Yes, indeed they do. CD-Rs might last a few years, they might last 50, it depends on their quality. Most that are made in Taiwan these days, for instance, are about the lowest quality that allows for them to even work... I'd be surprised if those last five years. Factory discs are supposed to endure for ~100 years in proper conditions. Vinyl trumps all (storage time, sound quality, and full size art), however, and is still my preferred format Given the both the sound quality and musical quality of commercially available MP3s and MP4s, who's going to be able to bear to listen to it in more than five years.
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 jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | reply to ARGONAUT
said by ARGONAUT:I still like having that factory CD in my hands and it's been proven that blank CD-Rs have a shortened lifespan. I had no problems buying records or cassette tapes, so I don't think you will catch me complaining about the lifespan of a CD-R. I mostly use CD-Rs to store the songs in case of a hard drive catastrophe. I might throw 100 songs on a CD to play in my car, but I use a Sharpie to label it and I really don't care what happens to it after a couple of months. I just make a another with new songs when I need some fresh sounds. |
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What a lot of people don't understand is that the "average consumer" is perfectly fine with the current quality of MP3 and MP4 recordings. That's why they are still selling so well now and piracy is showing no signs of slowing down. |
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said by ARGONAUT:I still like having that factory CD in my hands and it's been proven that blank CD-Rs have a shortened lifespan. Here is how I see it, I can buy 100 CD-Rs for $20. That 5 cents a CD. Now if you have to replace your "factory" (I thought they were all made in factories?) CD, would you rather pay $14.99 again or 5 cents?
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jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | I know what you are saying, but the CD's he is talking about have actual physical pits pressed into the CD for the laser to read a 1 or 0, while the CD-R uses a darker region that was "burned" onto the surface and will fade over time. In some tests, under certain conditions, that time is relatively short.
CD-R's are still my best option, but $20 for 100 CD's? You are getting ripped off.  |
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 OmegaDisplaced OhioanPremium
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Cheyenne, WY | reply to ARGONAUT
said by ARGONAUT:I still like having that factory CD in my hands and it's been proven that blank CD-Rs have a shortened lifespan. That's why I have all my music in mp3 format on my hard drive, and archived on DVDR's.
Sure, a CD-R may go bad, but that isn't a problem when you can burn it again! |
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 fireflierCoffee. . .Need CoffeePremium
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Limbo | reply to ARGONAUT
True, but music stored on HDD backed up to other HDDs have really nice shelf lives too. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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I wonder.
You have the CD, you have a possession that has value.
You can sell it. (maybe for not much, but hey, you can.)
If it gets stolen, or burned in a housefire, it's part of your personal property and your insurance will have to payout on it.
Now skip to digital downloads.... Your laptop is stolen. You had $1500 worth of iTunes on there. You file insurance claim.... you think your Insurance company will recompense you? Yeah, right! Download = zero value.
A step further... being somewhat dilligent, and wondering if your LT hard-drive might crash, you made backups of your downloaded iTunes on DVD-R.
One day a tornado destroys your home and the LT and your backups are gone. When you file your insurance claim, you list $1500 for music you paid for and downloaded. They won't pay. Even if you could produce hardcopies of your credit card charges or whatever, I think they'd still not pay on the grounds you can't prove the loss.
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jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | With digital downloads, you just have to provide your name and account information and you can simply redownload the songs. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to tdouglas22
said by tdouglas22:What a lot of people don't understand is that the "average consumer" is perfectly fine with the current quality of MP3 and MP4 recordings. That's why they are still selling so well now and piracy is showing no signs of slowing down. People are cheap. They can't use DRM as as excuse to pirate as you can get DRM-free songs. 99¢ must break their bank. I remember 25-30 years ago buying 45s for that much. That would be like $2-$2.50 in today's money. |
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