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Re: What proof do they have?
said by dirtyboi :
I've heard of plumbers connecting new residential sewer mains to phone company underground cable conduits.
I have heard of that happening before too.
Well ya know it looks all the same in dirt!!
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I've heard of plumbers connecting new residential sewer mains to phone company underground cable conduits. |
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said by Dogfather  :You could say the same about Verizon, pulling copper when it's not necessary, just to insure you can't go back to copper competitors. The difference is that Verizon owns the copper. Sure they are pulling it to avoid line sharing, but it is still their property, bought and paid for by our USF fees. 
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said by ropeguru :said by Kearnstd :well there is some fact here, if AT&T dug up coax trunks or damaged nodes then they are fully liable. But the question is, was it really vandalism, or was it like with most other utilities, they were either digging and had not had the area marked, or were the markings in the wrong place. Utilities get dug up all the time. But that doesn't mean it is vandalism. That's very true, and the bad part is even utility locators can be off by as much as 6-10ft.
Ironically my dad at the time was in charge of the water department down in my hometown. For years galati's (italian place down there) always had water problems but never knew why. It only affected one toilet in one restroom, and ironically they (galati's owners) had sealed it off. One day they opened that secondary pipe and some water came through. Dad ordered the street dug up and they found SBC went through the sewer pipe well over 15 years ago. Since most of the lines were attached to a new main and new lift station, in the middle of the street this old main was retired in like 1970. They dug the street up in 2002. Even further in the irony that one toilet pipe was the last pipe left that was attached to that old main and actually drained into the new lift station for the sewer.
My dad was like "Just fix it and bury it guys.. "
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You could say the same about Verizon, pulling copper when it's not necessary, just to insure you can't go back to copper competitors. |
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An issue I noticed when my in-laws switched to UVerse....the AT&T installers, for some reason, cut the incoming coax line down to the ground, rather than just unplugging it from the box. My in-laws were unhappy enough with TW that they'd never go back, so it isn't an issue for them, but if theirs was the common "install", I could see TW being a little upset. They do technically own that line all the way up to the box, and you MIGHT be able to make an argument for vandalism.
Then again that was in Austin, no telling what is going on in San Antonio.
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That is what the court will decide, if it's not settled ahead of time. |
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said by Kearnstd :well there is some fact here, if AT&T dug up coax trunks or damaged nodes then they are fully liable. But the question is, was it really vandalism, or was it like with most other utilities, they were either digging and had not had the area marked, or were the markings in the wrong place. Utilities get dug up all the time. But that doesn't mean it is vandalism. |
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well there is some fact here, if AT&T dug up coax trunks or damaged nodes then they are fully liable.
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