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Ikyuao

join:2007-02-26
Wichita, KS
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reply to swhitney2003

Re: Faster

said by swhitney2003:

Because DOCSIS 2.0 was skipped (by Comcast anyways). Those of us on DOCSIS 1.1 are going to be left way behind, I think 3.0 is a good solution at this point.
What if cable provider decides to skip DOCSIS 3.0 and go ahead for 1 Gbits speed design that is good move of decision and that 1 Gbits speeds allows http loading very much faster and that solution design is very good way to go.
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64K TCP WIN is officially dead for long high latency fat network connection across internet.


swhitney2003
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join:2003-06-13
NH

said by Ikyuao:

said by swhitney2003:

Because DOCSIS 2.0 was skipped (by Comcast anyways). Those of us on DOCSIS 1.1 are going to be left way behind, I think 3.0 is a good solution at this point.
What if cable provider decides to skip DOCSIS 3.0 and go ahead for 1 Gbits speed design that is good move of decision and that 1 Gbits speeds allows http loading very much faster and that solution design is very good way to go.
DOCSIS 3.0 is the next generation that needs to be implemented to keep up with competitors. How far away is 1gbps? I'm sure it is a long ways away, 5+ years for the cable industry ATLEAST. DOCSIS 3.0 is where it's at now, and it will be a viable option for years to come. Implementing is beneficial to ISPs. Waiting for 1gbps is nowhere near close, so why let competition beat back on those with DOCSIS 1.1?


Ikyuao

join:2007-02-26
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said by swhitney2003:

said by Ikyuao:

said by swhitney2003:

Because DOCSIS 2.0 was skipped (by Comcast anyways). Those of us on DOCSIS 1.1 are going to be left way behind, I think 3.0 is a good solution at this point.
What if cable provider decides to skip DOCSIS 3.0 and go ahead for 1 Gbits speed design that is good move of decision and that 1 Gbits speeds allows http loading very much faster and that solution design is very good way to go.
DOCSIS 3.0 is the next generation that needs to be implemented to keep up with competitors. How far away is 1gbps? I'm sure it is a long ways away, 5+ years for the cable industry ATLEAST. DOCSIS 3.0 is where it's at now, and it will be a viable option for years to come. Implementing is beneficial to ISPs. Waiting for 1gbps is nowhere near close, so why let competition beat back on those with DOCSIS 1.1?
No matter if private cable operator decided not to implement it due cost of upgrade to DOCSIS 3.0 version and wait for new DOCSIS specification version of 1 Gbps is better chance to implement it new speeds and very less of experience of slow speeds so http could loads in no time quickly
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64K TCP WIN is officially dead for long high latency fat network connection across internet.


swhitney2003
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join:2003-06-13
NH

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First, break up your run on sentence into multiple sentences so it is easier to understand. Second, the DOCSIS 3 is still in development. Cable operators cannot wait 10 years for DOCSIS 4.0 or whatever it may be. The money is in DOCSIS 3.0, and it has plenty of potential. If they don't jump on this train, they will lose money and be less capable of upgrading to your so called 1 Gbps option, that hasn't even begun to show signs of adoption.

Edit: And I don't know what you are talking about http slow speeds. Seems my 8mbps is quite quick... for any web page.



Ikyuao

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I'd go with 1 Gbits speeds definitely of new DOCSIS specification design later after DOCSIS 3.0 specification version rather than 300 Mbits downstream and 120 Mbits upstream. With new 1 Gbits downstream and limited channels of upstream probably 120 Mbits specification are definitely way to go.
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64K TCP WIN is officially dead for long high latency fat network connection across internet.



swhitney2003
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join:2003-06-13
NH

Okay. You wait for this new specification to come out, how ever long it may take. If you want to, you can wait for a decade. I'll take faster speeds as they come out. I don't see why you would want cable operators to skip a major DOCSIS rollout and wait many years for a new roll out to happen... (let alone be developed first) and what, be stuck under DOCSIS 1.1 or 2.0? ENJOY THAT!!! I'll move on with the rest of today's technology and take the measly 300mbps speeds you talk of. Oh wait, it doesn't really matter since even if there was a 1gbps spec that existed, we would still be capped at 50mbps or whatever. DOCSIS 3.0 is still under development, and you want to skip and wait. Sheesh. You make no sense at all... you are willing to be stuck slow speeds yet want 1gbps speeds.



Ikyuao

join:2007-02-26
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It's up to cable operators if they can't roll out due economic reasons then they CAN choose to skip it and wait for new DOCSIS specification after DOCSIS 3.0 that's all.
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64K TCP WIN is officially dead for long high latency fat network connection across internet.



swhitney2003
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join:2003-06-13
NH

Did you miss the part where a new specification isn't even being developed yet and that DOCSIS 3.0 has quite the potential and longevity behind it. It is the only next option, whether today, tomorrow, 5 years from now. Waiting for a new spec isn't possible, they will fall behind other competitors in terms of speed.



Ikyuao

join:2007-02-26
Wichita, KS

I believe that new spec after spec 3.0 are possible.



swhitney2003
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join:2003-06-13
NH

There is always that possibility. It's just a matter of WHEN. Not soon, that is for sure. This economic situation isn't going to last 5-10 years. So the cable companies are still in the green for releasing 3.0. Waiting for a non existent spec is suicide.


Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

reply to Ikyuao
From the Docsis wiki:

"NTSC 6 MHz channel spacing will allow 10 bonded 6 MHz channels as MAX spectrum allocation for DOCSIS3.0 data, 60 MHz spectrum allocation could increase with consumer needs and re-allocation of analog TV channels into compressed digital space, leveraging the capability of DOCSIS 3.0 infrastructure to allow for 1 Gbit/s speeds in the future."

So it would appear that they think D3 will be Gigabit capable.



Ikyuao

join:2007-02-26
Wichita, KS
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said by Lazlow:

From the Docsis wiki:

"NTSC 6 MHz channel spacing will allow 10 bonded 6 MHz channels as MAX spectrum allocation for DOCSIS3.0 data, 60 MHz spectrum allocation could increase with consumer needs and re-allocation of analog TV channels into compressed digital space, leveraging the capability of DOCSIS 3.0 infrastructure to allow for 1 Gbit/s speeds in the future."

So it would appear that they think D3 will be Gigabit capable.
I think that DOCSIS 3.0 is good implement to allow add channels be bounded but I hope new coming up with DOCSIS 4.0 as enhance improvement over DOCSIS 3.0 version.
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64K TCP WIN is officially dead for long high latency fat network connection across internet.

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Ikyuao

You really are making little sense. You start by asking about gigabit cable modems. Then after I provide a link that says D3 has it planned in, you want D4 anyway. What are you after? Just trolling?


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