intelceleron11
@acanac.net | reply to happy
Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling
UPDATE:
I have to continually change the ports in order to maintain higher than 20k/s speeds(I can get between 50 and 140k). In fact lately I think they tried to throttle me even more, down to even 15k/s speeds up/down. Despicable. |
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rogerssucks
@rogers.com
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@intelceleron
Too bad your still getting throttled. I don't know which site your downloading torrents from but try downloading different torrents from other sites and check if you still have to change the ports to stop the throttling. I think I read somewhere on the uTorrent site that people were experiencing slower download speeds with 1.9 because other people seeding the torrent weren't using uTP but they were using the older way. |
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
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just to note - some older routers have bad UDP throughput. i forget why (maybe stateless processing in NAT is harder?), but you can measure the difference between tcp and udp throughput with iperf, two computers, and a second router+switch.
i'm talking routers that are at least 2 years old, and i have no idea how much better things can be with a simple router firmware upgrade.
in any event, for those that are having some problems with the new client being slow, i would try direct connecting to the internet for a short while (hopefully you are running winXP or some type of software firewall - don't broadcast your windows shares all over the internet). if that seems to make things much better, you may want to test out a recently-built router (hopefully from a shop that will allow you to return it if it doesn't help) OR at least update your firmware.
i have no idea how robust UDP over wireless is - you'd think it wouldn't make a difference if it was UDP or TCP, but then you'd think the same thing about the router itself... for these tests, i would go wired for the comparison to rule out systematic and random error injection.
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chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23
1 edit | reply to Omr
38 - 80? ugh
if its 675 then woot until then
geta cheap seedbox aka server and use Sftp full speed
oh and ya only works with caip members..... |
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intelceleron11
@acanac.net
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Update:
So it's now like almost 20 after 3 PM, and I'm not being throttled yet, I"m getting speeds up to 300k/s approx. I'm using a linksys WRTG router firmware changed to DD-WRT so I don't think that would have anything to do with the UDP packet slowdowns. All in all I"m keeping this version, and I'll see what happens. In the meantime, I turned off ALL other forms of torrent extras - peer exchange, DHT, scrape info, everything, and disabled encryption but no legacy ports.. We'll see how it progresses throughout the next few days... |
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Newbie
@teksavvy.com | reply to Omr
So far it works for me *cross fingers* im dl at 180 k from 50k |
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tendao
join:2008-01-21
Markham, ON | umm......
i am using just 1.8.1 but i am also noticing speed improvement these few days... i was able to get 300-400k/s during dinner time |
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Geguy
join:2003-11-19
Saint-Laurent, QC | reply to rogerssucks
Nice. Only this setting worked for me.
Jumped from 30k/s to 150k/s in about 10 sec. |
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b34tBoX
Premium
join:2003-12-28
Ontario, CAN | reply to Omr
Anyone notice that when using bittorrent it really slows down HTTP browsing. Yet when utorrent closes the speeds immediately go back to normal.
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funchords
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1 edit | reply to Omr
For those that aren't seeing an overall improvement --
A goal of uTP is to let you turn off the Upload Speed Limit that keeps your speeds (both upload and the tit-for-tat* download) artificially low. With uTP, your Upload Speed Limit will adjust to conditions -- getting out of the way of your more active Network uses but making better use of your network and ISP when it is more idle.
#1 -- After installing the new version, you should change your port number. Likewise, for a particular torrent, click on Advanced and then Clear Peer List (you will get a new list from the tracker). If this helps, it's because your peers have cached you by your old IP address and port number, and if they connected to you before, they will reconnect using whatever mode they were connected to you before you updated (TCP, encryption).
#2 -- uTP is more conservative than TCP -- meaning, if you were not throttled or working around the throttling somehow (MLPPP, for example), then this new uTorrent will likely have less throughput while you're sitting at the keyboard doing interactive things (surfing, game-playing) than the previous TCP-based version did. Where it should shine is when you're away from the keyboard.
The best way to notice if it's working is 1- can you comfortably surf and play when it's running, and 2- when the network is not otherwise in use, does it rise to overall speeds that were faster than with previous uTorrent versions?
#3 -- Turn off the upload limit. Previously, most of us used the upload speed limit control to avoid overrunning our broadband modem. With uTP running, you don't need that anymore, not even for the legacy TCP connections.
For those that are still having trouble browsing (like b34tBoX): Please visit »forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=49813 and read the first message. If that doesn't help, then post a message there describing the problem. As well as offering better speeds when you're not using the computer, a goal of uTP is to avoid exactly the surfing problem you're having. They need to figure out why it's not working as it should with your system.
*a feature of BitTorrent is that it reciprocates -- better uploaders are matched with other better uploaders, it's not only a reward, it's a more efficient pairing.
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b34tBoX
Premium
join:2003-12-28
Ontario, CAN
| reply to Omr
Only 1.9 affected my http browsing. Went back to 1.8.1 and no problems.
Also even when I enabled uTP in 1.9, TCPView still showed that TCP was being used as the established protocol to receive data through utorrent.
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Amazingsaurs
@teksavvy.com
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The alpha does use both TCP and UTP connections.
copied from utorrent forums
How to enable and disable it:
Preferences > Advanced, set bt.transp_disposition to:
255 - both TCP and uTP (default)
10 - uTP only
5 - TCP only
the main reason why TCP is still predominate because the majority of the other torrent clients still use TCP. But your able to limit only UTP connections  |
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damaster
join:2007-04-14
Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, QC | reply to Omr
In addition, the December 2 build of utorrent 1.9 alpha even shows you in your peers list which ones are connected via uTP. I set the bt.transp_disposition to 10 and all peers connected to me are connected via uTP. Sweet! |
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b34tBoX
Premium
join:2003-12-28
Ontario, CAN
3 edits | said by damaster  :In addition, the December 2 build of utorrent 1.9 alpha even shows you in your peers list which ones are connected via uTP. I set the bt.transp_disposition to 10 and all peers connected to me are connected via uTP. Sweet! Cool, thanks. I'm going to try it out.
Update, yup sure does. thanks.
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erfans
n00b
join:2008-10-10
Scarborough, ON
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1 edit | reply to MiaKica
said by MiaKica :
OK, I used this guide. Only difference is that for listening port I used 50000, and opened that port in my 2Wire 2700HG-B.
Restarted modem, restarted computer, and I am rolling
With this guide I was able to achieve my max speed 630+ kb/s down. But the next day the port I was using was somehow blocked so I tried the alternative one in the guide and guess what, today that is also blocked. Other ports aren't working either. hmmm I got excited there thinking I had finally got around this throttling mess lol.
I downloaded 35 GB and uploaded 10 GB in approximately 3 days with this guide. Now my speeds are cap'd again  |
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RyanR
@teksavvy.com
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I have had mixed results with the 1.9 beta. Right now with utp only im downloading at 5kb and 40kb upload while being throttled. Upload is definitely an improvement but im not having much luck with down speed. I have tried diffrent ports and settings and nothing seems to change my 5kb speed. |
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EvanUnisil
join:2008-02-14
Montreal, QC | There is a lot of useful information in this thread and I'm posting to tag it.
Stupid question and OT I know but is there anyway for me to search my previous post history without searching for my username using the search tool? |
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andyb
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SW Ontario
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erfans
n00b
join:2008-10-10
Scarborough, ON
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| reply to Omr
Alright guys, it's been 4 days now and I'm getting consistent max speeds (630 kb/s down | 70 kb/s up).
Day 1:
Day 4:
I limit my upload speed while downloading but it can go max if I let it All of this without MLPPP. Using uTorrent 1.8.1 with the guide on the second page.
D'LINK DIR-625
Speed Touch Home
TOTAL Download: 53 GB
TOTAL Upload...: 18 GB |
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RyanR
@teksavvy.com | reply to Omr
Tried the posted guide, dosent increase my speeds AT ALL. Oh well > |
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