Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling in TekSavvy http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21497962 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:19:05 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:19:05 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21578476 antdes457 : On my side, torrent speed suddenly halved at exactly 6:00 PM when using uTP... :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21578476 Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:17:38 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21553284 sama98b : 1.8.1 is faster for me, 1.9 doesn't really want to reach the max speeds on peers.
And tcp/udp same speed caps ....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21553284 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:56:01 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21552515 Cloneman :
said by b34tBoX See Profile :

Anyone notice that when using bittorrent it really slows down HTTP browsing. Yet when utorrent closes the speeds immediately go back to normal.
you need the llvllord half-open patch, most likely]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21552515 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:38:11 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21539816 anon : Tried the posted guide, dosent increase my speeds AT ALL. Oh well >]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21539816 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:36:49 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21538198 erfans : Alright guys, it's been 4 days now and I'm getting consistent max speeds (630 kb/s down | 70 kb/s up).

Day 1:


Day 4:


I limit my upload speed while downloading but it can go max if I let it :) All of this without MLPPP. Using uTorrent 1.8.1 with the guide on the second page.

D'LINK DIR-625
Speed Touch Home

TOTAL Download: 53 GB
TOTAL Upload...: 18 GB]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21538198 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:05:50 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21537211 andyb : Top corner is a link

[Att=1]
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21537211 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:02:01 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21537134 EvanUnisil : There is a lot of useful information in this thread and I'm posting to tag it.

Stupid question and OT I know but is there anyway for me to search my previous post history without searching for my username using the search tool?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21537134 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:35:48 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21529985 anon : I have had mixed results with the 1.9 beta. Right now with utp only im downloading at 5kb and 40kb upload while being throttled. Upload is definitely an improvement but im not having much luck with down speed. I have tried diffrent ports and settings and nothing seems to change my 5kb speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21529985 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:24:01 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21529157 erfans :
said by MiaKica :

OK, I used this guide. Only difference is that for listening port I used 50000, and opened that port in my 2Wire 2700HG-B.
Restarted modem, restarted computer, and I am rolling
With this guide I was able to achieve my max speed 630+ kb/s down. But the next day the port I was using was somehow blocked so I tried the alternative one in the guide and guess what, today that is also blocked. Other ports aren't working either. hmmm I got excited there thinking I had finally got around this throttling mess lol.

I downloaded 35 GB and uploaded 10 GB in approximately 3 days with this guide. Now my speeds are cap'd again :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21529157 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:41:05 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526665 b34tBoX :
said by damaster See Profile :

In addition, the December 2 build of utorrent 1.9 alpha even shows you in your peers list which ones are connected via uTP. I set the bt.transp_disposition to 10 and all peers connected to me are connected via uTP. Sweet!
Cool, thanks. I'm going to try it out.

Update, yup sure does. thanks.
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copied from utorrent forums
How to enable and disable it:
Preferences > Advanced, set bt.transp_disposition to:
255 - both TCP and uTP (default)
10 - uTP only
5 - TCP only

the main reason why TCP is still predominate because the majority of the other torrent clients still use TCP. But your able to limit only UTP connections :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526566 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:21:51 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526543 b34tBoX : Only 1.9 affected my http browsing. Went back to 1.8.1 and no problems.

Also even when I enabled uTP in 1.9, TCPView still showed that TCP was being used as the established protocol to receive data through utorrent.
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A goal of uTP is to let you turn off the Upload Speed Limit that keeps your speeds (both upload and the tit-for-tat* download) artificially low. With uTP, your Upload Speed Limit will adjust to conditions -- getting out of the way of your more active Network uses but making better use of your network and ISP when it is more idle.

#1 -- After installing the new version, you should change your port number. Likewise, for a particular torrent, click on Advanced and then Clear Peer List (you will get a new list from the tracker). If this helps, it's because your peers have cached you by your old IP address and port number, and if they connected to you before, they will reconnect using whatever mode they were connected to you before you updated (TCP, encryption).

#2 -- uTP is more conservative than TCP -- meaning, if you were not throttled or working around the throttling somehow (MLPPP, for example), then this new uTorrent will likely have less throughput while you're sitting at the keyboard doing interactive things (surfing, game-playing) than the previous TCP-based version did. Where it should shine is when you're away from the keyboard.

The best way to notice if it's working is 1- can you comfortably surf and play when it's running, and 2- when the network is not otherwise in use, does it rise to overall speeds that were faster than with previous uTorrent versions?

#3 -- Turn off the upload limit. Previously, most of us used the upload speed limit control to avoid overrunning our broadband modem. With uTP running, you don't need that anymore, not even for the legacy TCP connections.

For those that are still having trouble browsing (like b34tBoX): Please visit »forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=49813 and read the first message. If that doesn't help, then post a message there describing the problem. As well as offering better speeds when you're not using the computer, a goal of uTP is to avoid exactly the surfing problem you're having. They need to figure out why it's not working as it should with your system.

*a feature of BitTorrent is that it reciprocates -- better uploaders are matched with other better uploaders, it's not only a reward, it's a more efficient pairing.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526209 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:22:51 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526026 b34tBoX : Anyone notice that when using bittorrent it really slows down HTTP browsing. Yet when utorrent closes the speeds immediately go back to normal.
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Jumped from 30k/s to 150k/s in about 10 sec.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21524312 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:34:36 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522118 tendao : umm......
i am using just 1.8.1 but i am also noticing speed improvement these few days... i was able to get 300-400k/s during dinner time]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522118 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:50:38 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521691 anon : So far it works for me *cross fingers* im dl at 180 k from 50k]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521691 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:38:08 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521596 anon : Update:

So it's now like almost 20 after 3 PM, and I'm not being throttled yet, I"m getting speeds up to 300k/s approx. I'm using a linksys WRTG router firmware changed to DD-WRT so I don't think that would have anything to do with the UDP packet slowdowns. All in all I"m keeping this version, and I'll see what happens. In the meantime, I turned off ALL other forms of torrent extras - peer exchange, DHT, scrape info, everything, and disabled encryption but no legacy ports.. We'll see how it progresses throughout the next few days... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521596 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:23:44 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521371 chronoss2009 : 38 - 80? ugh
if its 675 then woot until then
geta cheap seedbox aka server and use Sftp full speed
oh and ya only works with caip members.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521371 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:43:15 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521148 jig : just to note - some older routers have bad UDP throughput. i forget why (maybe stateless processing in NAT is harder?), but you can measure the difference between tcp and udp throughput with iperf, two computers, and a second router+switch.

i'm talking routers that are at least 2 years old, and i have no idea how much better things can be with a simple router firmware upgrade.

in any event, for those that are having some problems with the new client being slow, i would try direct connecting to the internet for a short while (hopefully you are running winXP or some type of software firewall - don't broadcast your windows shares all over the internet). if that seems to make things much better, you may want to test out a recently-built router (hopefully from a shop that will allow you to return it if it doesn't help) OR at least update your firmware.

i have no idea how robust UDP over wireless is - you'd think it wouldn't make a difference if it was UDP or TCP, but then you'd think the same thing about the router itself... for these tests, i would go wired for the comparison to rule out systematic and random error injection.
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Too bad your still getting throttled. I don't know which site your downloading torrents from but try downloading different torrents from other sites and check if you still have to change the ports to stop the throttling. I think I read somewhere on the uTorrent site that people were experiencing slower download speeds with 1.9 because other people seeding the torrent weren't using uTP but they were using the older way. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518835 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:51:55 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518776 anon : UPDATE:

I have to continually change the ports in order to maintain higher than 20k/s speeds(I can get between 50 and 140k). In fact lately I think they tried to throttle me even more, down to even 15k/s speeds up/down. Despicable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518776 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:33:43 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518745 koolgiy : Mine is

'Enable DHT Network' - checked
'Enable DHT for new Torrents' - checked
'Enable Local Peer Discovery' - checked
'Ask tracker for scrape information' - checked
'Enable Peer Exchange - checked
'Limit Local Peer bandwidth' unchecked

[default]

on port 48089 with legacy connections unchecked.

I have it on '10' to connect to just uTP connections.
(bt.transp_disposition)

Getting 300 speed :) Hope it stays.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518745 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:23:17 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518718 anon : P.S.

It only worked for me after the port change, so anyone trying these setting might not want to skip that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518718 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:17:56 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518716 koolgiy : Nope. Still cruddy speeds.
Curse you Bell!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518716 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:17:41 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518709 anon : I used the above settings and i immediately got an increase of about 14kbs to 150-200kbs, thanks i am happy to get around bell's evil throttling]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518709 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:14:15 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518706 AMailer :
said by rogerssucks :

I just tried dling a torrent and i'm dling at 170ish kb's so it is still working for me. I don't know if this will help you guys having problems but my settings are -

Encryption - disabled with the 'allow incoming legacy connections' box unchecked

'Enable DHT Network' - unchecked
'Enable DHT for new Torrents' - unchecked
'Enable Local Peer Discovery' - unchecked
'Ask tracker for scrape information' - checked
'Enable Peer Exchange - checked
'Limit Local Peer bandwidth' unchecked

And I'm using port 31579
Tried this, no luck, I didn't try the port change but I doubt it would make a difference. I'm getting a max of 30KB/s now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518706 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:13:23 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518691 anon : I know a guy that has been throttled 90% of the time at around 40-60k/s... he's used utorrent stock, 1.9 beta, and it's working wonderfully for him, he got osmething in the range of 3-400k/s download at around 6PM.

Myself, I haven't been so lucky. It seems that my connection kicks out after a certain time - that is to say, I get throttled soon after (between 3 and 15 minutes). I"ve changed the settings to the one mentioned above, and will report any percieved changes when they are available.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518691 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:09:44 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518575 anon : click on Options > Preferences > than click on the bitorrent tabs. I don't know what the DHT stuff is for but those are what my settings are. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518575 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:41:32 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518477 Turbinator : Cant find the encryption setting anywhere, I remember looking at it before a few months ago. What is the DHT stuff for?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518477 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:24:13 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518340 anon : I just tried dling a torrent and i'm dling at 170ish kb's so it is still working for me. I don't know if this will help you guys having problems but my settings are -

Encryption - disabled with the 'allow incoming legacy connections' box unchecked

'Enable DHT Network' - unchecked
'Enable DHT for new Torrents' - unchecked
'Enable Local Peer Discovery' - unchecked
'Ask tracker for scrape information' - checked
'Enable Peer Exchange - checked
'Limit Local Peer bandwidth' unchecked

And I'm using port 31579]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518340 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:55:50 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518120 koolgiy : Ahh crap.
I have 1.9, and still my speeds are below 30k.
One download went to 90k for a second! Then went back down.
Is it my end? Or did Bell close the gap already.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518120 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:12:35 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518109 anon : I am pretty disapponted this didn't work. It seems like the thorttling is getting worst too. My connection speed is now cap even at regular hours. I am finally fed up with Bell's measure. I just ordered the linksys router and will install tomato to it to bypass the thorttling. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21518109 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:09:46 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21517129 AMailer : I'm getting throttled now as well, 25-30kB/s 7:19 PM. Was good while it lasted I suppose :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21517129 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:18:19 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21516738 anon : I tried the utorrent alpha.

It didn't work for me. I still get throtted down to 25kB/s. I am in Montreal around the McGill area]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21516738 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:03:26 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21516700 anon : Well up until a few weeks ago I wasn't throttled by Rogers but then one day it just suddenly kicked in and I was stuck at 30 kb/s, even for encrypted traffic. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21516700 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:56:59 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21515855 yolul : Wow. I thought they stopped throttling like Comcast when they introduced caps... I guess my friend and i are one of those lucky people who are not throttled. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21515855 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:24:55 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21515832 drjp81 : Hmmm wouldn't the use of the lates uTorrent clien be the same as simply dropping (Filtering in NAT) all the TCP packets by alloeing travers by UDP packets?

I mean if you say open up port x to UDP but not TCP and indicate to Utorrent to use port x.

So? Anyone?
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This is not even a generous Throttling ... Rogers doesn't do it within certain "Peak" times, there beast is on 24/7 ... now I am to believe some areas have had these daemons off, but it is a policy choice that they throttle. So if you are not throttled now, you can be at anytime as Rogers Policy is to throttle.

Rogers is infamous for being one of the first to start Throttling ... I say one of the first as I believe all Cable companies in Canada started throttling at or around the same time ie. Shaw and Cogeco. Now since Rogers is the biggest, and it's effects have been so well documented by aggravated Canadian P2P users ... it has gained online notoriety for being the scumbag ISP all other ISP's are compared to.

EDIT: Correction, Videotron doesn't throttle and they are Canadian.

EDIT2: Rogers is also dubious for charging the worst overage fees, throttling all encrypted data, and having low caps.

More Bad ISP's can be found at:

»azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs#Canada]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21514806 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:28:53 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21514557 yolul : you are being throttled by Rogers? That's odd, i have Rogers and i am not throttled, give them a call and see why they are throttling you....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21514557 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:45:37 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21512954 anon : I'm using Rogers highspeed internet and I was throttled to 30 kb/s using uTorrent 1.8.1 but I just switched to uTorrent 1.9 beta and it fixed the throttling problem. I went from a MAX of 30 kb/s to around 400 - 500 kb/s. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21512954 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:23:27 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21511100 davidbrown : The end of the internet ..must have been a slow news days...lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21511100 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:06:08 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21510378 Turbinator : Here is a good article that goes in to detail and compares it to the article posted here.
»UDP BitTorrent Will Destroy The Interwebs!

Basicaly we are all good to go, nothing to see here, the internet is not ending tommorow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21510378 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:50:14 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21510307 GNca George : I get your point at the local, end user level, but what's happening farther upstream? Is the upstream network impact better or worse? Or maybe there is no impact at all and nobody cares?

Put your network management hat on for a moment, is this a good, bad or indifferent thing?

George
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said by GNca George See Profile :

They have to sell advertising I guess and drama sells... Bennett does raise some interesting questions. A lot of network management tools don't deal with UDP very well, so the congestion issue may be valid.
The whole problem with the article is that it completely neglects the fact that Bittorent's implementation of uTP does provide congestion control. In fact, their quoted reason for switching to it is that TCP's congestion control wasn't good enough for them. They mention in the release notes as caveat that if you have both TCP and UDP enabled, the TCP connections will get preferential treatment, as that essentially was what one of the design objectives was: to not interfere with browsing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21510076 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:57:55 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509956 GNca George : They have to sell advertising I guess and drama sells... Bennett does raise some interesting questions. A lot of network management tools don't deal with UDP very well, so the congestion issue may be valid.

I guess we'll see. As far as I know, a NetEqualizer doesn't care if you're running TCP or UDP so it may not matter much to us.

George
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Bittorrent declares war on VoIP, gamers
»www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/01···ent_udp/

Not sure how accurate it is, but interesting point of view. 'But this insight isn't shared by downloaders in general, most of whom have a sense of entitlement where their etiquette gene should be.'

Hehe!

»bennett.com/blog/ is pretty good reading.

George
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Restarted modem, restarted computer, and I am rolling
throttling_t···rief.pdf
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509458 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:07:17 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509379 erfans :
said by MiaKica :

Every day, any time of the day.

I will try to find a guide for setting uTorrent, and post it here. It made a difference for me ( went from 20 kB/s to 400 kB/s).
Awesome, i'll be patiently waiting :)
Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509379 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:52:18 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509377 Turbinator : Please do, I await in anticipation. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509377 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:52:12 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509373 anon : Every day, any time of the day.

I will try to find a guide for setting uTorrent, and post it here. It made a difference for me ( went from 20 kB/s to 400 kB/s).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509373 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:51:03 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509348 erfans :
said by MiaKica :

I am using uTorrent 1.8.1 , and getting good speeds, like 350 - 400 kB/s.
I'm jealous!

Have you setup a static IP? I'm all on default + port forwarded.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509348 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:46:04 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509190 Turbinator : Every day at any time of the day?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509190 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:16:06 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509081 anon : I am using uTorrent 1.8.1 , and getting good speeds, like 350 - 400 kB/s.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509081 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:56:19 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509029 mr_hexen :
said by erfans See Profile :

lol it won't download anything now. speeds below 1 kb/s.
will mlpp be effected by bell's new throttling? i can't stand this throttling. I don't understand, people in the US have a much faster speed than us and they are not throttled. so why in the world is canada with it's shitty connection throttling its customers?
Greed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21509029 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:45:25 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21508918 Turbinator : Indeed, what anti-throtling guide?

I downloaded this new uTorrent and the download speed is still fucked with by Bell.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21508918 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:22:36 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507514 erfans :
said by jessegr See Profile :

im using this + the anti throttling guide and it seems to work pretty well.
What anti throttling guide?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507514 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:48:17 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507261 jessegr : im using this + the anti throttling guide and it seems to work pretty well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507261 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:39:12 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507074 erfans : I'm still throttled. I uninstalled my previous version of uTorrent and then installed this version. Am I suppose to mess around with the settings?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507074 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:28:44 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21506677 Ikyuao : That UDP transport layer should help you get around of ISP throttling issues because UDP doesn't have flags, follow up in order of packet and congestion control like that. Finally I able get around with my US ISP throttling with my linux iptables flexible firewall by dropping TCP RST flags on the floor.
--
64K TCP WIN is officially dead for long high latency fat network connection across internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21506677 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:31:48 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21506321 anon : 9pm eastern.

Downloading a torrent at 300kB/s

This new build work great so far. Hopefully this will foil Bell for a while.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21506321 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:02:52 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21506102 anon : working for me.

from 38K to 80.

screw you bell.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21506102 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:06:26 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21505702 erfans : lol it won't download anything now. speeds below 1 kb/s.
will mlpp be effected by bell's new throttling? i can't stand this throttling. I don't understand, people in the US have a much faster speed than us and they are not throttled. so why in the world is canada with it's shitty connection throttling its customers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21505702 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:34:32 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21503006 munky99999 : Oh note... even if this cat-mouse game gets to a point where they are unable to differentiate between the protocols and everything.

They may just throttle everything. Given CRTC seems to have given that allowance. Certainly doesnt bode well for internet access.

We offer 5,000mbit... but I dont get that speed? Oh it's UP TO that speed. Ok... so what do I really get? 1,000mbit. Ok but my download speeds arent correct... Oh we have to fight congestion so we are throttling you @ the times you are able to use your connection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21503006 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:02:15 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21502974 munky99999 : Oddly this works.

@ bell connection even. So I have no MLPPP.

Wont be long until their tech adapts.

edit/
Already adapted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21502974 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:54:01 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21501933 avenger : Seems to be working, hitting around 150+kb/s, can't wait for a stable version of 1.9]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21501933 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:04:06 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21499732 Nizmo : Will I be able to hit over 1mbps with MLPPP off? Fastest I did was 990 kbps on an average speed (3.3GB done in 1 hour flat) meaning I did hit more than 1mbps one way or the other.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21499732 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:04:07 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21499703 Omr : Apparently the effect won't be felt until a majority of the swarm is using a uTP enabled client, currently uTorrent 1.9 Alpha and the last build of 1.8.1 support it ... will take time for 1.9 to become the major client used throughout the swarm.

I believe no special setup is required, just run the new version and hope to get a download with a lot of 1.9 users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21499703 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:41:20 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21499563 astyanax : not doing a thing for me.

you guys do anything special?

edit; very weird. i tried using that other port that they suggested, it didnt work -- then i updated my router settings, and it seems to be working fine now. i even downgraded to 1.8.1, and its working fine!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21499563 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:11:18 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21499526 David_T : Seems I'm still getting slower speeds than I was with 1.8 however. I think I'll be sticking with MLPPP for some time to come.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21499526 Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:55:11 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498985 puzz1ed : The latest Vuze/Azureus also has a "prefer UDP" option but it doesn't seem to make much difference for me (on Rogers). I am able to manage reasonable torrent speeds with or without UDP but nothing like the good ol' days.

It's a cat and mouse game so enjoy what works while it does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498985 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:46:57 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498531 Guspaz : They're implementing their new protocol on top of UDP because it lets them bypass TCP's congestion control and retransmission mechanisms. It gets around throttling because it doesn't fit Bell's profiles. They WILL throttle it eventually. Anyhow, the initial alpha is crashy, so people might want to give it some time before using it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498531 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:55:57 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498479 xPBxNaStY : if i install this will my completed list transfer over? and u think my private site will work with it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498479 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:41:28 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498459 AMailer : Sweet! It works :D Even if its for now :D 150kB/s at the moment]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498459 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:37:07 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498388 anon : OK, sorry, Mea culpa. I overlooked the word "using". ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498388 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:12:18 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498377 anon :
udp is something thats been around a while.


Heh, heh, you could say that. :) »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498377 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:09:48 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498310 anon : I'm not into p2p at all, but i do recall using udp is something thats been around a while.

I recall reading about it this past summer after seeing an article on p2pnet about its creator (creator of Blubster) being sued by the RIAA's for creating it. I think this was the article where i learned about udp being used (it doesn't talk much about udp in that story) »www.p2pnet.net/story/16115

Some tech info: »www.blubster.com/technology.htm

Anyhoe, seems utorrent is copying his work...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498310 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:53:48 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498211 corkyy : well, all the other stuff will still be throttled]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498211 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:26:23 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498120 hoyohoyo : if that is the case, then its good news to those who have not yet bought a mlppp capable router...too bad i had just bought one...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498120 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:00:58 EDT Re: Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498058 David_T : Holy hell it's working...

Disabled MLPPP and I'm downloading at 62kb/sec right now with 1.9.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21498058 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:45:16 EDT Notice, new uTorrent Alpha may be able to evade throttling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21497962 Omr : To those who have not implemented the MLPPP method, rumors are that the new uTorrent alpha 1.9 can evade throttling as it uses UDP as opposed to TCP. Apparently uTorrent devs are trying a different Tranport Layer, one they dubbed uTP. Amongst its key features is adaptive rate control, so it doesn't bottleneck your browser when downloading your favorite Linux ISO.

Can be had over at:

»forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=49813

I use MLPPP, and my area lately has not been throttled so I cannot confirm.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21497962 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:21:33 EDT