Re: Solution in search of a problem? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21506468 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:57:27 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:57:27 EDT Re: Solution in search of a problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21506468 Dogfather : The majority of business is small business and VoIP doesn't have required reliability. Given my experience with Vonage and Viatalk (both horrible) I certainly wouldn't have my small business relying on it (especially for the burglar alarm and faxing). I bend over for Verizon POTS and while I don't like the price, it's NEVER down, unlike VoIP.

At home it's a different story, while I'll never go back to VoIP, my trusty 1997 era VoCable with Cox is working great. If Cox moves from VoCable to VoIP in my market I'll go back to POTS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21506468 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:46:50 EDT Re: Solution in search of a problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484408 clecssuck : Why? What if I only need 3 or 4 lines? Keep it simple if at all possible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484408 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:18:53 EDT Re: Solution in search of a problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484377 insomniac :
said by CylonRed See Profile :

I am one young one who does not want my landline to go especially for 911 service. POTs is far more stable with no batteries to ever worry about than cell phone.
Same here. 27 years old, have had a POTS line for six years, not getting rid of it.
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If everything seems to be going well, you've obviously overlooked something.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484377 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:12:29 EDT Re: Solution in search of a problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484173 CylonRed : I am one young one who does not want my landline to go especially for 911 service. POTs is far more stable with no batteries to ever worry about than cell phone. My brother called my mom last Christmas on his cell - could only hear every other word.

Phone line is just over $31 and for 911 when I need it - it is worth it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21484173 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:27:05 EDT Re: Solution in search of a problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21482664 anon : They stopped investing in POTs years ago. The problem is they have this 100 year old infrastructure that is too old to do much more with and too expensive to do a forklift upgrade on. They should have been spending more to upgrade the infrastructure to fiber but instead chose to pocket the profits. Now that the cable companies have been able to match their service on a more modern infrastructure their day of reconing is here. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21482664 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:45:17 EDT Re: Solution in search of a problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21482635 Matt :
said by swhx7 See Profile :

Consumers are giving up landlines, but telcos are still selling them to businesses. A business or other organization will have its own pbx or whatever in the building, but then it goes to a line in the street.

And as someome else pointed out, once the wireless calls come from the tower they go into copper or fiber.
If a business is tying POTS lines into a PBX they need to leave the 1970's. Multiple lines pulled into a PBX are done via digital circuit (like a T-1, or fractional variant) rather than traditional analog POTS lines.

I think folks are confusing a telco's data network with the POTS phone system.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21482635 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:40:11 EDT Re: Solution in search of a problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21482552 swhx7 : Consumers are giving up landlines, but telcos are still selling them to businesses. A business or other organization will have its own pbx or whatever in the building, but then it goes to a line in the street.

And as someome else pointed out, once the wireless calls come from the tower they go into copper or fiber.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21482552 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:24:54 EDT Solution in search of a problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21481616 Matt : I can't think of a gap this is supposed to fill. Most of the people I know with landlines are older folks, or families who keep it around for an emergency. What possible reason could there be to pay more money to send an SMS message to a landline? Anyone?

The ILECs need to stop investing in POTS and copper and move on already.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21481616 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:46:41 EDT