[General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only in VOIP Tech Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21507931 en Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:23:36 EDT Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:23:36 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21547813 kieranmullen : Once you get an account login to the website to [purchase a number.

When logged in using the software I think you enter ** to get your number. Their KB article about getting the # from the profile does not work for me for some reason.

Let us know how it works out for you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21547813 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:33:54 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21546284 PX Eliezer : For Gizmo5, you need to download the software first, to your computer or to your cellphone:
»gizmo5.com/pc/download/
(When you go to that page, it pops up with an executable download. I suggest that you CANCEL that download executable, so that you can take your time picking the right download for your needs! Don't blame me, blame Gizmo!)

(By the way, if anyone wants to use an ATA instead of computer softphone, they can do that after downloading the software. But the software has to be downloaded and installed in order to get the account number and such).

After you are setup with Gizmo, you can purchase a Call-In number:
»gizmo5.com/pc/network/callin-numbers/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21546284 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:23:11 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21546174 anon : Hello kieranmullen and thanks for your response. I tried going on Gizmoproject.com but I couldn't figure out where to sign up for a number. Their rate of $35 per year works for me. I only need it for incoming calls since all calls will be routed t my cell phone. Can you please send me a link to the sign up page? Thanks in advance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21546174 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:59:59 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526560 nitzan :
said by soitgoes2 See Profile :

said by nitzan See Profile :

Verizon used to do flat-rate pricing on their DIDs until yesterday. As of yesterday their incoming-only DIDs are now billed per-minute, in essence they matched Level 3.
Are they applying this to DIDs that are already in service or just newly acquired DIDs?
Did they lower the monthly fee at the same time?
They're applying it to all DIDs including ones purchased under the former terms. In essence what they're saying is deal with it - or stop using the service. I would not be surprised to see lawsuits against them because many companies were depending on a product they decided to discontinue on a whim. Very bad business practices on this one.

I haven't done extensive research, but at this point it's possible that Level 3 pricing is lower than Verizon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526560 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:20:46 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526457 VOIPoTim :
said by kieranmullen See Profile :

About per minute charges for incoming fax lines...

How does the same user base view per minute charges as an entirely new concept even for incoming calls. Even the seeminly telephony backwards UK that charges per minute for local calls, only charges the caller and not the reciever. Now I am aware that the US telecom system is varied in such a way that it would be expensive and difficult to set up a similar billing system (people might riot as well) However I find it hard that a company (Gizmo) that has recently requested people add funds to their account to get personal service (which is fair) is eating the cost of incoming calls. I then assume that it either 1)Costs them nothing or 2)They obtain kickbacks for terminating calls For voicepulse.com (I forgot to mention I can also get 4 unlimited incomming lines at $11 per month. I doubt they are eating that cost too)

So for larger companies (I do not know if they are bigger) Yourself, Viatalk etc. I then assume that you are getting paid twice to terminate the same call? Once by the carrier and then another time for the customer, not only paying for it, but as I mentieond earlier above market rates.

said by VOIPoTim See Profile :

We designed it mainly because our target audience for it within our existing customer base doesn't know much about VoIP and would only be using it to forward to PSTN numbers anyway so consolidating it was better than billing for both inbound and outbound legs from a marketing standpoint.
Hi Kieran,

The fax service has no per minute charge.

For the Express Local service, it includes 300 minutes each month and then there is a charge. Since we bundle the PSTN forwarding with it, there's no difference in this vs any other service out there.

As an example, if you got a DID from Future Nine, they'd charge if you forwarded it to the PSTN, so it's really the same thing, just marketed differently.

We found that people responded better to it being marketed this way rather than stating 2 prices (incoming and forwarding) when nearly 100% of our customers were forwarding to PSTN.

Hope that makes sense.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526457 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:03:59 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526339 soitgoes2 :
said by nitzan See Profile :

Verizon used to do flat-rate pricing on their DIDs until yesterday. As of yesterday their incoming-only DIDs are now billed per-minute, in essence they matched Level 3.
Are they applying this to DIDs that are already in service or just newly acquired DIDs?
Did they lower the monthly fee at the same time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21526339 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:42:39 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21525011 nitzan : Correct. Pretty much all CLECs that service VoIP make you pay for incoming minutes. Some like L3 make you pay per-minute, while others make you buy "channels" where you have for example a dedicated virtual T1. If your call volume is high you'd need to buy additional T1 blocks so in essence you're paying per-minute - although the price is lower than L3 overall.

Verizon used to do flat-rate pricing on their DIDs until yesterday. As of yesterday their incoming-only DIDs are now billed per-minute, in essence they matched Level 3. This is a very bad thing for providers that relied on their flat rate pricing, but per-minute pricing is low enough on average where this might not have much of an impact for residential customers. They still sell two-way DIDs where you get unlimited incoming and local outgoing - but those cost too much to consider for most customers IMHO.
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Future Nine Corporation]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21525011 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:15:28 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21524666 soitgoes2 : Level3 is one of the big providers of DIDs to VOIP providers. I believe they charge, at least in most cases, for incoming calls.

At the other end of the spectrum, MagicJack supposedly, as a CLEC, does get paid for incoming calls to it.

In the middle, you've got "flat rate" providers where incoming calls aren't charged to the VoIP provider or the end-user. Someone does get paid, but that doesn't mean the VoIP provider sees any of it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21524666 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:04:52 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21524621 kieranmullen : About per minute charges for incoming fax lines...

How does the same user base view per minute charges as an entirely new concept even for incoming calls. Even the seeminly telephony backwards UK that charges per minute for local calls, only charges the caller and not the reciever. Now I am aware that the US telecom system is varied in such a way that it would be expensive and difficult to set up a similar billing system (people might riot as well) However I find it hard that a company (Gizmo) that has recently requested people add funds to their account to get personal service (which is fair) is eating the cost of incoming calls. I then assume that it either 1)Costs them nothing or 2)They obtain kickbacks for terminating calls For voicepulse.com (I forgot to mention I can also get 4 unlimited incomming lines at $11 per month. I doubt they are eating that cost too)

So for larger companies (I do not know if they are bigger) Yourself, Viatalk etc. I then assume that you are getting paid twice to terminate the same call? Once by the carrier and then another time for the customer, not only paying for it, but as I mentieond earlier above market rates.

said by VOIPoTim See Profile :

We designed it mainly because our target audience for it within our existing customer base doesn't know much about VoIP and would only be using it to forward to PSTN numbers anyway so consolidating it was better than billing for both inbound and outbound legs from a marketing standpoint.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21524621 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:52:22 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21524468 edmidor : didww.com has 305 codes, unlimited]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21524468 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:06:21 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523768 PX Eliezer : Also further thinking about this---if this is for business-type use, may want to look at:

»www.ringcentral.com/

»www.phonefusionone.com/

»www.phone.com/virtual-office/

The first two are pretty well known, the third one has somehow not made a splash. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523768 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:40:14 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523670 PX Eliezer : Nothing against Brring! but folks do need to be familiar with Terms of Service:

»www.brring.com/tos.php

especially this part:

4. TERM AND TERMINATION The Beta Test is expected to run for several months, ending upon Brring!'s notice, though either party may terminate this Agreement at any time for any reason by notifying the other. Upon termination Your access to the Service and use of the Brring! Number will end.....

So take note:

With a free ad-supported Beta
They can run and say See Ya Later!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523670 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:22:18 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522996 mazilo :
said by nitzan See Profile :

said by mazilo See Profile :

It also has 818 (Hawaii) area code!
Did you mean 808? :) (818 is LA)
Nitza, you are right and it is 808 (not 818). Sorry about that error.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522996 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:28:25 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522942 anon : why not use www.magicjack.com it is cheap and can be used anywhere in the us and canada]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522942 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:20:18 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522687 nitzan :
said by mazilo See Profile :

It also has 818 (Hawaii) area code!
Did you mean 808? :) (818 is LA)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522687 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:34:18 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521509 mazilo :
said by kissangelo :

Hello everyone. I need a number in the Southeast FL area (preferably 305) that I can set up to have calls forwarded to my cellphone, office, or home. I appreciate any suggestions or ideas.
Any suggestions? Then, try Brring. It is an ad driven free incoming call forwarded to your designated number. You don't need an invitation to be a member of Brring; however, any existing Brring member can send you an invite to make $1/invitation. That said, if you create an account here, I can PM you a free Brring invitation. You will need to maintain at least one incoming call/month before your Brring line gets recycled into the pool for others to use.

Anyway, last I checked (about two months ago), Brring had 768 (Miami) and (305) Keys area codes. It also has 818 (Hawaii) area code!
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UK Phone: +44-703-194-2574
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521509 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:09:02 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521327 VOIPoTim :
said by kieranmullen See Profile :

Does the user get charges for outgoing only or incoming and outgoing? I would imagine the 300 minutes are apart of the above answer.

Gizmo has unlimited incoming and .02 per min outgoing. Why should USA long distance cost more? From voicepulse.com USA long distance cost at or less than .01 per minute.

said by ilhy See Profile :

Voipo express local number.

»voipo.com/local-voip-number.shtml
That includes incoming and outgoing PSTN forwarding. It's a combined rate so it's a little different than most VoIP offerings out there. We designed it mainly because our target audience for it within our existing customer base doesn't know much about VoIP and would only be using it to forward to PSTN numbers anyway so consolidating it was better than billing for both inbound and outbound legs from a marketing standpoint.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521327 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:35:26 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521302 kieranmullen : Does the user get charges for outgoing only or incoming and outgoing? I would imagine the 300 minutes are apart of the above answer.

Gizmo has unlimited incoming and .02 per min outgoing. Why should USA long distance cost more? From voicepulse.com USA long distance cost at or less than .01 per minute.

said by ilhy See Profile :

Voipo express local number.

»voipo.com/local-voip-number.shtml

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IP/Website Tools »ip.drlinky.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521302 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:29:41 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21520179 ilhy : Voipo express local number.

»voipo.com/local-voip-number.shtml]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21520179 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:04:46 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21519441 kieranmullen : GizmoProject.com has did's in the 305 area codefor $35 a year for unlimited incoming. If you want to forward to another did you may do so but it will cost for outgoing minutes at .02 Which I am sure any carrier will charge you for as well. However you can have multiple registrations at once so you can always answer it at home when you are there for free.

said by kissangelo :

Hello everyone. I need a number in the Southeast FL area (preferably 305) that I can set up to have calls forwarded to my cellphone, office, or home. I appreciate any suggestions or ideas. Also any info about Grand Central. Someone suggested it but I am not very familiar with it. Thanks in advance.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21519441 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:14:35 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21508005 gbh2o : Two suggestions, depending on volume required and based on personal experience. Both offer good [great?] flexibility in routing numbers just about anywhere you want.

VOIPo for lighter volume as mentioned above. If you don't see a number in the area you need, ASK! Very easy on-line management of 'immediate' routing changes.

Future-nine for potentially higher volume. Takes a day or so to acquire a number and get it set up initially, but worth the wait. ASK if you need something special. Very easy on-line management of 'immediate' routing changes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21508005 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:18:13 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507989 montyny : I was looking for something similar - may not work for you but I went with Voicestick given that I didn't expect much volume.

There was another provider I almost went with »les.net/products/product_ipdidusa.php but given the occasional use only, I went with Voicestick.

Actually, just found this link: »www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/DID+···roviders - might be worth looking through the list here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507989 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:13:09 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507964 UHF : VOIPo looks like they offer that for around $3 a month. 300 minutes included. Looks like a good deal. I'd sign up, but they don't have any numbers where I need them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507964 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:07:27 EDT Re: [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507956 dbmaven : Grand Central is currently a closed Beta - they' aren't accepting any new accounts. You can read all about them at
»www.grandcentral.com

If they were still accepting new accounts, they'd probably be a great alternative for you. Alas, you'll need to see what other options people offer up...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507956 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:04:59 EDT [General] Virtual Number for Forwarding Only http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507931 anon : Hello everyone. I need a number in the Southeast FL area (preferably 305) that I can set up to have calls forwarded to my cellphone, office, or home. I appreciate any suggestions or ideas. Also any info about Grand Central. Someone suggested it but I am not very familiar with it. Thanks in advance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21507931 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:55:49 EDT