GOLFnSUN
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ | reply to The_Dude
Re: BS
said by The_Dude :
I think this is total BS!!!!!!!!! I just won't have Internet if they want to keep pushing shit like this!
Peace
Right. Cut off your nose to spite your face. |
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hayabusa3303
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join:2005-06-29
clubs:
 ·QuantumVoice
 ·AT&T Southeast
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| said by GOLFnSUN  :said by The_Dude :
I think this is total BS!!!!!!!!! I just won't have Internet if they want to keep pushing shit like this!
Peace
Right. Cut off your nose to spite your face. hey i was without internet for a month didnt bother me all that much. Alot of people are just plain hooked on the internet like a drug. |
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NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22
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said by GOLFnSUN :said by The_Dude :
I think this is total BS!!!!!!!!! I just won't have Internet if they want to keep pushing shit like this!
Peace
Right. Cut off your nose to spite your face. What happened to voting with your wallet?
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | that would take ALOT of people before something would happen tho. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
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Voting with your wallet is not good for some people's stock portfolios. Oh, they talk about it in a feeble attempt to make a point, but complain about it when it is put into practice.
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
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·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by wentlanc :Voting with your wallet is not good for some people's stock portfolios. You must have stock in T then i guess by your remark? |
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GOLFnSUN
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
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said by NetAdmin :said by GOLFnSUN :said by The_Dude :
I think this is total BS!!!!!!!!! I just won't have Internet if they want to keep pushing shit like this!
Peace
Right. Cut off your nose to spite your face. What happened to voting with your wallet? A specific internet vendor and NO internet at all are 2 different things. Very, very few would go without any internet access no matter what they say here. I am sure that point was obvious. To most anyway.
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wentlanc
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join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to hayabusa3303
Actually, no. I was being quite sarcastic because others here seem to be the ones who have such a stake in these telcos. I would happily go to my local coffee shop to pay bills. Or do it from work. Whichever.
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envoid
join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA
| reply to hayabusa3303
said by hayabusa3303 :said by GOLFnSUN :said by The_Dude :
I think this is total BS!!!!!!!!! I just won't have Internet if they want to keep pushing shit like this!
Peace
Right. Cut off your nose to spite your face. hey i was without internet for a month didnt bother me all that much. Alot of people are just plain hooked on the internet like a drug. i can't be without it... i work from home. have to actually, and my company won't pay for internet. and i have GOBS of traffic managing servers all over the area. this would kill me and make it totally unaffordable to have or even be able to work. f'n money-grubbing is all it is.
side note... if they do this they really need to remove "unlimited internet" from any and all of their advertising then. that would just be a blatant lie if they kept that. sorta is now with comcast but the big companies fear not the DoJ or FCC or FTC. especially at&t. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by envoid :i have GOBS of traffic managing servers all over the area. this would kill me and make it totally unaffordable to have or even be able to work. Sounds like you're a primary candidate for a business class circuit.said by envoid :they really need to remove "unlimited internet" from any and all of their advertising then. That was done quite some time ago. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| I have looked on several ISP websites, and I cannot find any mention of traffic volume as being a perk in the business class tier. Actually, they mention performance and reliability, but not traffic volume... I'm wondering how envoid sounds like a prime candidate for this service to you?
said by Comcast :
With speeds up to 5 times as fast as DSL, our extensive fiber-optic network delivers the performance and reliability your business needs to succeed. Please, help me understand this...
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NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22
| reply to GOLFnSUN
said by GOLFnSUN :A specific internet vendor and NO internet at all are 2 different things. Very, very few would go without any internet access no matter what they say here. I am sure that point was obvious. To most anyway. From what I can gather in previous discussions like this, you are a "let the market decide" and "vote with your wallet" disciple. Now you are actively discouraging someone from that course of action?
That disconnect is quite obvious, except for some.
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hihi
join:2007-05-06
Port Orange, FL
| reply to hayabusa3303
said by hayabusa3303 :said by GOLFnSUN :said by The_Dude :
I think this is total BS!!!!!!!!! I just won't have Internet if they want to keep pushing shit like this!
Peace
Right. Cut off your nose to spite your face. hey i was without internet for a month didnt bother me all that much. Alot of people are just plain hooked on the internet like a drug. alot ppl need internet for many uses
can u live without it?
you had no choice but why do without it??? |
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cyberdude
@rr.com | reply to wentlanc
I'll just go back to dial up and simplify my habits online!
I don't do the gaming or major downloads anyway! |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
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said by wentlanc :I'm wondering how envoid sounds like a prime candidate for this service to you? envoid appears to be using his connection to the Internet for business purposes. If envoid is truly reliant on a connection that doesn't inhibit his/her work, I'd recommend a business class circuit. I know that if funding my livelihood depended on my ability to access the Internet, I would have a much better setup than a residential connection from AT&T. In fact, I would most likely have a couple of connections to the Internet from different providers. |
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switchman
join:1999-11-06
Grand Prairie, TX | reply to wentlanc
It is kind of hard to vote with your wallet when you only have two choices and they both are saying you want service, it is metered. If you want to be totally without, then yes you can vote with your wallet. |
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Noah Vail
Premium
join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to openbox9
said by openbox9 :If envoid is truly reliant on a connection that doesn't inhibit his/her work, I'd recommend a business class circuit. Why?
said by openbox9 :I know that if funding my livelihood depended on my ability to access the Internet, I would have a much better setup than a residential connection from AT&T. I do have a better setup than a residential connection from AT&T. I have a residential connection from Brighthouse. I use it to manage my business clients.
Point to point, it is the same connection that my business clients have, sans the static IP. There is no difference in performance or reliability. Paying 800% extra for the business line would gain me nothing.
The work I do is a lighter network load than a residential user who streams a radio station or watches a movie. My ISP isn't taxed a bit by it.
said by openbox9 :In fact, I would most likely have a couple of connections to the Internet from different providers. I keep an aircard in my van attached to an EVDO router. It's always on if not always in use. I suppose that might serve as a backup. Or my phone can morph into a HSUPA hotspot, if I get desperate.
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| reply to openbox9
said by openbox9 :said by wentlanc :I'm wondering how envoid sounds like a prime candidate for this service to you? envoid appears to be using his connection to the Internet for business purposes. If envoid is truly reliant on a connection that doesn't inhibit his/her work, I'd recommend a business class circuit. I know that if funding my livelihood depended on my ability to access the Internet, I would have a much better setup than a residential connection from AT&T. In fact, I would most likely have a couple of connections to the Internet from different providers.
Please describe in some logical detail, and in a fashion that can be compared against the business class service offering of any ISP, WHY this person's internet connection should be a business class connection.
None of you supporters have been able to do this as of yet. There is in fact NOTHING about a business class account that is different than a residential account with the exception of service level, and advanced features. There is no usage related benefits to a business class account. I've asked this question many times, and nobody can produce an answer with any type of substantial support for the decision.
Again, I asked to understand it, and you just are not getting me there. Please try again.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by wentlanc :Please describe in some logical detail, and in a fashion that can be compared against the business class service offering of any ISP, WHY this person's internet connection should be a business class connection. To avoid the caps? If envoid really transfers "gobs" of data, then s/he might enjoy a business account and the ability to transfer as much as the connection allows.said by wentlanc :There is in fact NOTHING about a business class account that is different than a residential account with the exception of service level, and advanced features. I beg to differ. A DS1 or DS3 circuit brings additional advantages compared to a DSL or cable connection. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| said by openbox9 :said by wentlanc :Please describe in some logical detail, and in a fashion that can be compared against the business class service offering of any ISP, WHY this person's internet connection should be a business class connection. To avoid the caps? If envoid really transfers "gobs" of data, then s/he might enjoy a business account and the ability to transfer as much as the connection allows. said by wentlanc :There is in fact NOTHING about a business class account that is different than a residential account with the exception of service level, and advanced features. I beg to differ. A DS1 or DS3 circuit brings additional advantages compared to a DSL or cable connection. The business account does not differentiate how much data can be transferred. Please provide some proof that shows otherwise.
A T1 or DS3 circuit is not a DSL or cable connection, so I fail to see how you could differ. That is not a business grade account, that's private line service. You are comparing apples to antelopes.
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