openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| reply to envoid
Re: BS
said by envoid  :i have GOBS of traffic managing servers all over the area. this would kill me and make it totally unaffordable to have or even be able to work. Sounds like you're a primary candidate for a business class circuit.said by envoid :they really need to remove "unlimited internet" from any and all of their advertising then. That was done quite some time ago. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| I have looked on several ISP websites, and I cannot find any mention of traffic volume as being a perk in the business class tier. Actually, they mention performance and reliability, but not traffic volume... I'm wondering how envoid sounds like a prime candidate for this service to you?
said by Comcast :
With speeds up to 5 times as fast as DSL, our extensive fiber-optic network delivers the performance and reliability your business needs to succeed. Please, help me understand this...
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by wentlanc :I'm wondering how envoid sounds like a prime candidate for this service to you? envoid appears to be using his connection to the Internet for business purposes. If envoid is truly reliant on a connection that doesn't inhibit his/her work, I'd recommend a business class circuit. I know that if funding my livelihood depended on my ability to access the Internet, I would have a much better setup than a residential connection from AT&T. In fact, I would most likely have a couple of connections to the Internet from different providers. |
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Noah Vail
Premium
join:2004-12-10
Lorton, VA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| said by openbox9 :If envoid is truly reliant on a connection that doesn't inhibit his/her work, I'd recommend a business class circuit. Why?
said by openbox9 :I know that if funding my livelihood depended on my ability to access the Internet, I would have a much better setup than a residential connection from AT&T. I do have a better setup than a residential connection from AT&T. I have a residential connection from Brighthouse. I use it to manage my business clients.
Point to point, it is the same connection that my business clients have, sans the static IP. There is no difference in performance or reliability. Paying 800% extra for the business line would gain me nothing.
The work I do is a lighter network load than a residential user who streams a radio station or watches a movie. My ISP isn't taxed a bit by it.
said by openbox9 :In fact, I would most likely have a couple of connections to the Internet from different providers. I keep an aircard in my van attached to an EVDO router. It's always on if not always in use. I suppose that might serve as a backup. Or my phone can morph into a HSUPA hotspot, if I get desperate.
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| reply to openbox9
said by openbox9 :said by wentlanc :I'm wondering how envoid sounds like a prime candidate for this service to you? envoid appears to be using his connection to the Internet for business purposes. If envoid is truly reliant on a connection that doesn't inhibit his/her work, I'd recommend a business class circuit. I know that if funding my livelihood depended on my ability to access the Internet, I would have a much better setup than a residential connection from AT&T. In fact, I would most likely have a couple of connections to the Internet from different providers.
Please describe in some logical detail, and in a fashion that can be compared against the business class service offering of any ISP, WHY this person's internet connection should be a business class connection.
None of you supporters have been able to do this as of yet. There is in fact NOTHING about a business class account that is different than a residential account with the exception of service level, and advanced features. There is no usage related benefits to a business class account. I've asked this question many times, and nobody can produce an answer with any type of substantial support for the decision.
Again, I asked to understand it, and you just are not getting me there. Please try again.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by wentlanc :Please describe in some logical detail, and in a fashion that can be compared against the business class service offering of any ISP, WHY this person's internet connection should be a business class connection. To avoid the caps? If envoid really transfers "gobs" of data, then s/he might enjoy a business account and the ability to transfer as much as the connection allows.said by wentlanc :There is in fact NOTHING about a business class account that is different than a residential account with the exception of service level, and advanced features. I beg to differ. A DS1 or DS3 circuit brings additional advantages compared to a DSL or cable connection. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| said by openbox9 :said by wentlanc :Please describe in some logical detail, and in a fashion that can be compared against the business class service offering of any ISP, WHY this person's internet connection should be a business class connection. To avoid the caps? If envoid really transfers "gobs" of data, then s/he might enjoy a business account and the ability to transfer as much as the connection allows. said by wentlanc :There is in fact NOTHING about a business class account that is different than a residential account with the exception of service level, and advanced features. I beg to differ. A DS1 or DS3 circuit brings additional advantages compared to a DSL or cable connection. The business account does not differentiate how much data can be transferred. Please provide some proof that shows otherwise.
A T1 or DS3 circuit is not a DSL or cable connection, so I fail to see how you could differ. That is not a business grade account, that's private line service. You are comparing apples to antelopes.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by wentlanc :A T1 or DS3 circuit is not a DSL or cable connection Of course they aren't, that's why my original post referenced a business class circuit. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| DSL and Cable connections are be definition a circuit. What you may have meant, but failed to mention, is a dedicated service, or private line service. A tremendous waste of his money. And BTW, some T1 services are merely throttled DSL connections because they are cheaper for the carrier to provide.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by wentlanc :A tremendous waste of his money. How can you make that determination? |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | Because he does not need dedicated bandwidth. That is the advantage of dedicated service over a shared service like DSL or Cable.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| said by wentlanc :Because he does not need dedicated bandwidth. Really?said by envoid :i have GOBS of traffic managing servers all over the area |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | Are those metric gobs??
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| Since I like the metric system, yes they are. So if envoid transfers 500 Megagobs per month, does s/he require a dedicated connection? |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| 1 megagibbles per second = 321.013651 gigagobs per month (assuming that we are talking in a single direction)
Sound like too much to expect from your 20/2 connection, which is capable of transferring up to 6.5 teragobs in a month?
So what you are saying is that ~6% of the capacity that you are purchasing is too much usage??
REALLY?!
What percentage of the bandwidth that we purchase would you LIKE for us to be able to get?
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