badtrip
East Bay
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA
 ·Unwired Ltd
 ·Comcast
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: More...
Bill by bytes is ridiculous. A good portion of the bytes that are transferred to my box are unwanted and unasked for. No offense, but I don't want to pay to view anyone's avatars on this forum and I certainly do not want to pay to view banner and flash ads.
As for overages, these guys are trying to use a drought-time water utility payment model for internet service. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Then you probably shouldn't visit this site, or sites like this. If you don't want to view avatars, you can always block images, or better yet, use a text-based browser. |
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DataDoc
My avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.
Premium
join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC
·Suddenlink
| You've missed the point completely. Think of the difference between sites that are text based and those that use Flash for everything possible. You don't know how many bytes you're about to get until you're there. And how many bytes is a Google map? or weather information?
Who knows? Nobody,until you get your bill. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| I got the point very well. Some people want to use a service unfettered with minimal consequences, but they aren't willing to pay appropriately.
How much money does it cost to leave my TV plugged in to an electrical outlet? How much will my water and gas bills rise with a guest staying in the house? The concept of pay for what you use has been around for quite some time and I don't expect to see it go away. |
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SSidlov
Other Things On My Mind
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join:2000-03-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
·Optimum Online
·Cingular Wireless
| reply to badtrip
said by badtrip  : No offense, but I don't want to pay to view anyone's avatars on this forum and I certainly do not want to pay to view banner and flash ads. Then you will like this article: »www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/02···g_study/ which reports on a 'green' browsing study and accuses Flash et al, as consuming more wattage on our computers.... |
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badtrip
East Bay
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA
·Unwired Ltd
·Comcast
| reply to openbox9
said by openbox9 :Then you probably shouldn't visit this site, or sites like this. If you don't want to view avatars, you can always block images, or better yet, use a text-based browser. Just because my browser doesn't render a picture doesn't mean the data needed to render that picture wasn't sent. My point was I come to this forum to share in everyone's views, I'd happily pay for that. A pic of McCain/Palin, not so much. |
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not me 2
@comcast.net
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Another option in a pay by the byte system is to drive someone off the net by constantly hitting their system with data. A normal DOS or DDOS could force someone to leave the Internet just because the of the cost even if that person never did anything more on the Internet than check for email. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to badtrip
said by badtrip :My point was I come to this forum to share in everyone's views, I'd happily pay for that. A pic of McCain/Palin, not so much. That's equivalent to saying that you only want one of the articles on the front page of a news site to be delivered even though you're requesting the whole page. What about the header and footer on each page here at DSLR? Why should you have to pay to receive those bits when you most likely aren't interested in them? |
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badtrip
East Bay
Premium
join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | Exactly. |
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VictorWI
join:2003-05-30
Greendale, WI
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Teleblend
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said by badtrip :Just because my browser doesn't render a picture doesn't mean the data needed to render that picture wasn't sent. My point was I come to this forum to share in everyone's views, I'd happily pay for that. A pic of McCain/Palin, not so much. Ah, I don't think you understand how browsers work. They request the picture to be sent. A text browser will not as it does not know how to render it. It will only bring down the IMG tag, not the referenced image. |
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playahata
@uwm.edu | reply to SSidlov
stop being conservatives, this is 2008, every house should have 20Mbps+ connections already, unfiltered, uncapped. |
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