| Should we Start Suing Chinese Buffets too? I mean, when I got to a buffet that promotes itself as "all-you-can-eat", it better mean that I can stay there all day long, morning, noon, and night.. Heck maybe even a few days.
The truth is that these terms are simply used for "simplicity". To the average consumer, the term
"Unlimited" makes more sense than "3G Services up to 10GB of Downloads a Month".
And for 99% of subscribers, 10GB is really "unlimited" because they will never use that much. It's the people using their phones as modems and downloading movies, mp3s, and hi-res porn that are affected.
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"Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." -- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four.
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| said by biggbrother:I mean, when I got to a buffet that promotes itself as "all-you-can-eat", it better mean that I can stay there all day long, morning, noon, and night.. Heck maybe even a few days. Don't be obtuse, man. You're comparing apples to rocks. An all you can buffet is vastly different from a mobile phone plan that is advertised as unlimited but really isn't. It isn't reasonable for anyone to expect he can set up camp for a few days inside of a Chinese buffett.  |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | I think it's an excellent comparison. But seriously what application is going to cause a cell user to go over 10gb?? |
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Everyone knows all you can eat buffey is really for one sitting. Just as everyone expects unlimited internet access to be unlimited access. If it's not going to be unlimited, then don't label it so. |
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said by biggbrother:I mean, when I got to a buffet that promotes itself as "all-you-can-eat", it better mean that I can stay there all day long, morning, noon, and night.. Heck maybe even a few days. The truth is that these terms are simply used for "simplicity". To the average consumer, the term "Unlimited" makes more sense than "3G Services up to 10GB of Downloads a Month". And for 99% of subscribers, 10GB is really "unlimited" because they will never use that much. It's the people using their phones as modems and downloading movies, mp3s, and hi-res porn that are affected. Let me ask you this, if you rent a car that is advertised as unlimited mileage and the turn that car in to find out you went over a 500 mile allowance what would you do? False advertising is named false advertising for a reason and the states need to start cracking down on these deceptive practices. PERIOD. |
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said by beaups:I think it's an excellent comparison. But seriously what application is going to cause a cell user to go over 10gb?? let's see..pandora.com..you tube...nfl live..nba live..all of these video sites especially sports can add up in a hurry.. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | try again. none of those applications would touch 10gb. seriously you'd have to listen to pandora over 8 hours per day EVERY day to go over 10GB in a month. I use pandora somewhat frequently and don't come near that usage. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to wronganalogy
I agree that it is misleading...but TMO is the only one that really is unlimited...except you'll get throttled if you use too much.
The problem I see if they advertised as 20 or 200 or even 10,000GB of internet per month, it will scare customers away who don't understand. Wasn't there an article on here stating that 83% of people don't know what a GB is? The fact is for probably 99% of users 10GB is the same as unlimited.
Technically no internet service on the planet is "unlimited"....you are always limited by your connection speed, etc.
To the user who compared to rental car, what do you think would happen if you rented a car and drove it, say, 30,000 miles in a month? they probably couldn't charge you but I'm sure they'd tell you to take your business elsewhere next time or make you agree to a limit next time. This is effectively what TMO is doing. |
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 sapoCruising Down Memory LanePremium
join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | reply to hescominsoon
Yeah, if you actually use 10GB with active material that you USE not just store because you like to have every song downloaded then I think it's time to get a job or a girlfriend. |
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zhenya
join:2007-04-30
Ithaca, NY | reply to biggbrother
To refine your analogy - it would be more like buying an 'all-you-can-eat' meal plan for the semester in college, only to find out they really meant 'limited to 1500 calories per meal, 135,000 calories per month.'
Not at all the same thing. |
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sapoCruising Down Memory LanePremium
join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | said by zhenya:To refine your analogy - it would be more like buying an 'all-you-can-eat' meal plan for the semester in college, only to find out they really meant 'limited to 1500 calories per meal, 135,000 calories per month.' Not at all the same thing. Your analogy fails to consider that after the limit is hit the service is not cut off. |
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nickvd
join:2008-02-08
Hamilton, ON | No it's not cut off... but you're limited to one Twinkie per meal per day. |
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thefoxboxgo fox box goPremium
join:2004-10-14
Irving, TX | reply to sapo
said by sapo:said by zhenya:To refine your analogy - it would be more like buying an 'all-you-can-eat' meal plan for the semester in college, only to find out they really meant 'limited to 1500 calories per meal, 135,000 calories per month.' Not at all the same thing. Your analogy fails to consider that after the limit is hit the service is not cut off. just time to eat your food slower.
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thefoxboxgo fox box goPremium
join:2004-10-14
Irving, TX
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that would leave no room for other foods with calories ;p |
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thefoxboxgo fox box goPremium
join:2004-10-14
Irving, TX | reply to HotRodFoto
why are you comparing it to that?
it's not being capped.
it's being throttled.
that's like saying now that you have driven 500 miles, you can no longer drive on highways because they're riskier and more accidents are caused there than on roadways with slower speeds. |
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sapoCruising Down Memory LanePremium
join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | reply to nickvd
said by nickvd:No it's not cut off... but you're limited to one Twinkie per meal per day. After eating 1500 calories in a meal I don't think I could bear a twinkie. |
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said by thefoxbox:why are you comparing it to that? it's not being capped. it's being throttled. that's like saying now that you have driven 500 miles, you can no longer drive on highways because they're riskier and more accidents are caused there than on roadways with slower speeds. T-Mobil is throttled, where as Cricket with terminate your service |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to SilverSurfer1
said by SilverSurfer1:It isn't reasonable for anyone to expect he can set up camp for a few days inside of a Chinese buffett. Your comparing apples to oranges. A Chinese buffet closes for the night. A Cellphone company doesn't have calling curfews, perhaps in Utah (only sin and fornification (nightlife) can happen at night, proper Christians sleep at night, only evil do-ers call people at night) or an Islamic country (I'll make a guess and say no phones can dial out, and no phones can ring, and unless you get an exception from the govt/telco, your phone call is disconnected and replaced by a call to prayer, why wouldn't someone pray? its grounds for execution, we are all Muslims right?). |
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Ironically, T-Mobile probably the least 3G intensive apps right now. They don't have anything near Vcast right now, or similar products at other carriers.
I think they just need to put this in there to protect themselves legally.
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"Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." -- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four.
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said by sapo:Yeah, if you actually use 10GB with active material that you USE not just store because you like to have every song downloaded then I think it's time to get a job or a girlfriend. I use maybe 3GB tops per month on my cell phone AND I do download things (no alot obviously).
For those who say that 10GB isn't enough due to online based services...you wouldn't want to use them anyways on the go because 3G eats battery life like water. I will only get about 10min of *actual* web surfing on my AT&T Tilt before the phone cries out for power. I know it sucks, but its the price you pay I guess. And if you are at home with a charger, why wouldn't you just your computer anyways? |
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