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<description><![CDATA[Franklin4 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1357097" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1357097');">dishrich</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1648656" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1648656');">Franklin4</a>:</small><br><br>but not tape VCRs which are now being made "tuner free"  </div>How about this one that does BOTH - you can record w/the tuner on either the VCR or DVD recorder:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Video/DVD-Recorders-Players/DVD-Recorders/model.DMR-EZ485VK_11002_7000000000000005702" >www2.panasonic.com/consumer-elec&middot;&middot;&middot;00005702</A><br> </div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : do not buy any panasonic brand dvd recorder they are the worst!  get toshiba. i've owned every brand of dvd recorder for my work (broadcast/shooting/editing )]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Franklin4 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1357097" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1357097');">dishrich</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1648656" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1648656');">Franklin4</a>:</small><br><br>but not tape VCRs which are now being made "tuner free"  </div>How about this one that does BOTH - you can record w/the tuner on either the VCR or DVD recorder:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Video/DVD-Recorders-Players/DVD-Recorders/model.DMR-EZ485VK_11002_7000000000000005702" >www2.panasonic.com/consumer-elec&middot;&middot;&middot;00005702</A><br> </div>I looked into this machine  - Its received some pretty bad reviews - such as buggy software and lockups - plus worst of all - It won't record directly from a digital channel to VHS.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Franklin4 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by tvnut :</small><br><br>yeap! Looks like a good one..<br><br>As far as VCR goes, Please move into the 21st century!<br> </div>I will try to find a price for the panasonic model mentioned by dishrich - but I note that it doesn't have S-VHS<br><br>As far as moving into the 21st century,  I don't consider direct to DVD recorders superior to tape for simple reliable time shifting - However I would be interested in finding a reasonably priced Hard Disk Recorder that didn't require a monthly fee.<br><br>Until a few months ago, Magnavox was selling combination 160 GB Hard Disk and DVD recorders for $249.95 -  but they have been closed out, apparently because Magnavox is no longer making them, but you can still see the Walmart ad at:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10104532" >www.walmart.com/catalog/product.&middot;&middot;&middot;10104532</A><br><br>Many of Walmart's customers probably don't subscribe to cable - A recorder like this would be almost perfect for such people.  - I say almost, because it can't record in high definition.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : yeap! Looks like a good one..<br><br>As far as VCR goes, Please move into the 21st century!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dishrich posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1648656" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1648656');">Franklin4</a>:</small><br><br>but not tape VCRs which are now being made "tuner free"  </div>How about this one that does BOTH - you can record w/the tuner on either the VCR or DVD recorder:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Video/DVD-Recorders-Players/DVD-Recorders/model.DMR-EZ485VK_11002_7000000000000005702" >www2.panasonic.com/consumer-elec&middot;&middot;&middot;00005702</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Franklin4 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by tvnut :</small><br><br>There are MANY DVD-Recorders coming on the market with clear QAM Tuners..I did a search and found several brands that had it. So, that might be the solution to people that bought HDTVs prior to 2008.<br> </div>Yes - it is possible to find  DVD recorders with QAM tuners - but not tape VCRs which are now being made "tuner free" -plus try to find either one that can use a cable card and doesn't require a rental fee like Tivo.  - I actually have a DVD recorder and even if it had a QAM tuner I would prefer to use tape because it is simple to use, reliable and easy to erase compared to recordable DVDs.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PGHammer posted : If a TV supported CableCARD, they supported QAM/ClearQAM (as that was actually part of the requirements for CableCARD).  Also, even of the major brands, ClearQAM is still only common *above* a particular size (usually 40"); look at the major brands in terms of 32" and smaller LCD TVs (even Sony, Toshiba, and LG).<br><br>As far as the remote communicating with the STB, consider the STB's remote communicating with the VCR.  (Comcast's STB remote *is* a universal model; in fact, Universal used to manufacture them.)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : Yes, sorry... missed that thread connection.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Right, but right now in order for their new DTAs to work, they must receive Clear QAM..(Until they change that, I am going to not use the box and just my QAM Tuners.)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : Yup; Folks just need to keep in mind that there is no obligation on the part of service providers to provide anything via unencrypted QAM (as long as they offer local broadcast channels via unencrypted analog.)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : There are MANY DVD-Recorders coming on the market with clear QAM Tuners..I did a search and found several brands that had it. So, that might be the solution to people that bought HDTVs prior to 2008.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : Remember: You are the consumer.  If you don't like what is offered, do without.  You have all the power. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Franklin4 posted : I have never seen a VCR that can use a cable card and DVRs like TIVO require a monthly fee.  The cable companies have such a strangle hold on the industry, that it is becoming difficult to even find a VCR with a tuner of any kind.    If  the cable companies wanted to do so, it would have been easy for them to keep VCRs compatible with the switch to digital, by including timers in every set top box.<br><br>Another solution to the problem of programing a VCR would have been to make it easy for older cable ready VCRs to communicate with set top boxes.   I have a cable ready JVC S-VHS VCR that has an infrared output that can change the channel on more than 30 brands of set top boxes.  - My problem is that neither Motorola nor Pace is on the list, and I have been unable to program my VCR to communicate with either of the units supplied by Comcast.<br><br>I resent having to pay a monthly fee to time shift programs - I am hoping to be able to find a VCR with a QAM digital tuner which will be usable to tune in unencrypted channels directly - at least until Comcast gets a waiver, which I hope it never does.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ak3883 posted : It's 2009.  The vast majority of LCD TVs have ClearQAM tuners.  I would venture to say every model from major brands(Sharp,Panasonic,Toshiba,Samsung,LG,Sony) has a QAM tuner in it.  Only in some of the cheapest of cheap sets will you find only ATSC tuners, as req'd by law.  <br><br>In 2005 there were many more TV's with cablecard slots, and QAM tuners were not as common.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PGHammer posted : Typically, any TV that has ClearQAM support will have one of the following in its documentation:<br><br>1.  The term "digital-cable ready" or iDCR.<br>2.  CableCARD-ready.<br><br>Horribly, most LCD HDTVs don't support ClearQAM (at best, they support ATSC in addition to NTSC) for price reasons.  (Typically, ClearQAM/iDCR/CableCARD support was confined to the higher end of the price scale - plasma TVs, larger LCD HDTVs, and projection TVs.  That was a decision by the CEA, not the cable companies.)  I bought my Philips 42PF7320A/37A plasma in 2005 because it was, at the time, the lowest-price in-stock TV that supported CableCARD.  (I almost didn't have enough continuous wall to mount it - it is a bedroom TV.)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : I think that's a good assumption.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Don't think that will happen anytime soon, otherwise, they would have rolled out STB to everyone instead of wasting time making millions of DTAs. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : Or when they require expanded basic subscribers to upgrade from DTAs to STBs.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : so again. long story short, if you have expanded basic right now and you have a QAM tuner TV, then you dont need the stupid box!!! ONLY WHEN THE DTA BOX DOES SOME TYPE OF DECODING WILL YOU QUIT WORKING. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : well thats fine, cause I dont want the ones that are already encrypyed. What I am saying is that a QAM Tuner TV will be able to pick up anything that the new box will!! If the channels are encrypted, the box will not pick them up anyways!! Plus if you use a QAM tuner, you will pick up the HD Local channels which the Box will not!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by eangel88 :</small><br><br>Okay, so the QAM tuner won't make a difference when Comcast starts encrypting these channels.  The only thing that will work is either a STB or DTA?  Thanks.<br> </div>A DTA won't even work for encrypted channels.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[canalking posted : So sorry for the delay. Good thing I am not one of those original upset folks....and in fact, posted our problem for suggestions from others more "knowledgeable". <br><br>A couple of things happened after the post. First I left a message for someone on another message board, and a Comcast rep must have scanned the message board for complaints, and then emailed me offering assistance. (well appreciated). We even got a phone call from the "executive office". By then, the Comcast technician arrived on the Sunday, and within an hour , had us all hooked up and two tv's working properly. Seems he had to install a digital booster box in our basement. The old booster box was analog and so it no longer worked. Something to that effect. Whatever he did, he took care of the problem perfectly, quickly, and resolved our problem. The boxes work fine now. <br><br>My frustration was with the customer service reps in India (the dedicated phone number was provided with the DTA box), that only can tell you how to hook up the box, and then send you a signal to activate it. After doing that four times, and wasting hours of our time, they did not suggest we call for Comcast service. That was their mistake, and they should be retrained to help customers like us who spent 3 days trying to get our system to work. It does no one any good to spend hours trying to activate a box that will not receive a signal due to another problem. All that kind of run around does, is to create unhappy customers. We are inundated with marketing flyers to change cable companies. Dealing with people over the phone that cannot help you and do not know enough to forward your concern to other departments that can help you, makes the entire company look bad. This is simply a training issue and could be addressed for the future. But of course it is cheaper to send everyone to a phone bank in India, where the person, cheerful that they are, basically reads from a script, and after a half hour, just tells the customer to wait until the box gets the signal or it downloads the channels. Neither suggestion worked, nor did the "supervisor" 's suggestions. The delay only mad us angrier and willing to consider changing providers. So if you have any influence with Comcast, tell them to tell their customer reps in India, to pass the caller on to the US Comcast office for service. Dialing the phone number listed with the DTA box will likely lead one to nothing but frustration and delay.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1457782" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1457782');">bicker</a>:</small><br><br>Again, in many areas expanded basic channels will be encrypted when broadcast as digital.  Chances are, that is the reality that you will encounter: Expect that to be the case.  A QAM tuner <b>cannot</b> tune in an encrypted channel unless it supports and carries a CableCARD.<br> </div>Okay, so the QAM tuner won't make a difference when Comcast starts encrypting these channels.  The only thing that will work is either a STB or DTA?  Thanks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : So if the Channel 1 test isn't valid, how do I know if my TV's have the QAM tuner or not?  Do most TV's not have this yet?  Thanks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : Again, in many areas expanded basic channels will be encrypted when broadcast as digital.  Chances are, that is the reality that you will encounter: Expect that to be the case.  A QAM tuner <b>cannot</b> tune in an encrypted channel unless it supports and carries a CableCARD.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ClearToLand posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by eangel88 :</small><br><br><b>The Comcast rep told me to tune to Channel 1 on my TV.  If I can see something on Channel 1, then I don't need the DTA, but if I can't, I do need it.</b>  I can't see anything on Channel 1 on any of my TV's, so I guess none of them have the QAM tuner?<br> </div>It's so unfair when the folks you ASS-U-ME you can trust don't know WTH they're talking about. :uhh:<br><br>Only STBs (i.e. DCT-700) know about things like CH. 1 ('OnDemand'). DTAs (i.e. DC-50X) and Clear QAM tuners (i.e. TVs, DVDRs, etc...) won't be 'mapped' for these 'Special Features'.<br><small>--<br>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/6pxnwa">LM</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ClearToLand posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1644071" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1644071');">canalking</a>:</small><br><br>Thank you for your advice. <b>I will let you know what happens after the technician shows up on Sunday. If the technician cannot resolve the problem, then we will look into Fios.</b> Mybe a new service provider will help us out.  <br> </div>I wonder what happened in Scotch Plains, NJ on Sunday, 05/17/09...  :huh:<br><br>[OPINION]<br><ul><li>Some folks get SO UPSET when things don't go '<i>right</i>' (per their own personal perspective of '<i>right</i>' that is)! :o<br><br><li>Some register, some don't - but SO MANY *IMMEDIATELY* develop the need to post '<i>somewhere</i>' how UNHAPPY they are with '<i>Fill-in-the-Blank</i>'. :mad:<br><br><li>VOLUNTEERS ('<i>Kind Souls</i>') jump in with '<i>words-of-wisdom</i>' / hints and/or ideas on how to remedy the (perceived) '<i>problem</i>'.  ;)<br><br><li>MANY of the '<i>Original UPSET Folks</i>' never return to update their status. :hmm: (Probably too embarrassed...)<br><br><li>SEARCH & READ work well for me, but I guess most UPSET FOLKS just don't have the time...  :uhh:</ul><br>[/OPINION]<br><small>--<br>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/6pxnwa">LM</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1457782" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1457782');">bicker</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by tvnut  :</small><br><br>Ok, so long story short. If you have Expanded Comcast Basic(basically you get 60-70 channels). Then if you have a QAM Tuner TV, then you will not need this stupid box, as all 50+ Channels that move from analog to digital the tv will tune in with its QAM Tuner..</div>That is not necessarily the case.  In many (perhaps most) areas that will go down this path, expanded basic channels (say the top half of those 60-70 channels) will be encrypted.  These channels are already encrypted on QAM here.<br> </div>The Comcast rep told me to tune to Channel 1 on my TV.  If I can see something on Channel 1, then I don't need the DTA, but if I can't, I do need it.  I can't see anything on Channel 1 on any of my TV's, so I guess none of them have the QAM tuner?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by tvnut :</small><br><br>Ok, so long story short. If you have Expanded Comcast Basic(basically you get 60-70 channels). Then if you have a QAM Tuner TV, then you will not need this stupid box, as all 50+ Channels that move from analog to digital the tv will tune in with its QAM Tuner..</div>That is not necessarily the case.  In many (perhaps most) areas that will go down this path, expanded basic channels (say the top half of those 60-70 channels) will be encrypted.  These channels are already encrypted on QAM here.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ClearToLand posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by eangel88 :</small><br><br>...Will the RF modulator still work on Ch. 122 (or any channel for that matter) once the DTA's are connected and activated?  I'm guessing that it won't, but I don't know for sure, and <b>I don't know the reasons behind it...</b><br> </div>I agree with your answer - NO it won't.<br><br>The reason, per my reading of various DTA and QAM threads, is that the DTA does 'mapping'. (NOTE: My examples have FAKE numbers.)<br><br>While 'Discovery Digital' (not HD) may be received on 80.1 via Clear QAM, the DTA is instructed via 'mapping' to receive it on 200 (there are no SUB-Channels on my DTA). Thus, since Comcast is unaware of YOUR CH. 122, the DTA will (probably) be unaware of it also.<br><small>--<br>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/6pxnwa">LM</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Ok, so long story short. If you have Expanded Comcast Basic(basically you get 60-70 channels). Then if you have a QAM Tuner TV, then you will not need this stupid box, as all 50+ Channels that move from analog to digital the tv will tune in with its QAM Tuner..<br><br>So for me, the box is no effect as I have 4 QAM Tuner DTVs in my home...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I have a question about these DTA's.  I currently have expanded basic cable coming into 3 TV's in my house.  The rest of my house has DirecTV service.  I have a RF modulator connected to one of the satellite receivers, and set to cable Ch. 122.  This enables the 3 cable TV's to tune to Ch. 122 and receive the satellite channel that is tuned on that receiver.  <br><br>Will the RF modulator still work on Ch. 122 (or any channel for that matter) once the DTA's are connected and activated?  I'm guessing that it won't, but I don't know for sure, and I don't know the reasons behind it.  Thanks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Agent 86  :</small><br><br>"Generally, "those high channels" are encrypted, and DTAs aren't allowed to be used for those channels at this time (due to government [over-]regulation)."<br><br>The DTAs aren't designed to receive premium channels. They can do "privacy mode" (weak, used for VOD) decryption, but that would only be used for non-premium channels, if it is ever used.<br> </div>Yup, so in the range the OP mentioned (100-999), probably 100-299, and 500-799 (at least on my system).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cypherstream posted : I hear the SiliconDust team is able to pull the digital channel mapping data from the SCTE messages that are broadcast on DTA enabled headends.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6403&highlight=dta" >www.silicondust.com/forum/viewto&middot;&middot;&middot;ight=dta</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : "Generally, "those high channels" are encrypted, and DTAs aren't allowed to be used for those channels at this time (due to government [over-]regulation)."<br><br>The DTAs aren't designed to receive premium channels. They can do "privacy mode" (weak, used for VOD) decryption, but that would only be used for non-premium channels, if it is ever used.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mike Wolf posted : Ah ok, thanks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : To allow folks to tune in unencrypted digital cable channels (figure, channel 30 to 60 or so, on average), so they can watch them on their analog televisions.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mike Wolf posted : Then whats the point of it again?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bicker posted : Generally, "those high channels" are encrypted, and DTAs aren't allowed to be used for those channels at this time (due to government [over-]regulation).  <br><br>For now, think of DTAs as QAM tuners, that can be enabled or disabled en masse, nothing more.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mike Wolf posted : Hmm, well at least I know what exactly Comcast's letter on the payment center door about these boxes not being available until the fall is referring too. Though I  have to wonder what these boxes will allow me to do?  Will it allow a customer with digital service the abilty to watch those high channels, 100 - 999  without a digital set top box?  Like I said they arent out in my area and this is the first I've heard of this,  and I'm an installer....so make of it what you will :o]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[PhillyJim posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1156747" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1156747');">patspub</a>:</small><br><br>Anyone in Northeast Philly get one of these "DTA's" yet???<br> </div>I don't think Philly is getting them any time soon.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[owlyn posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1156747" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1156747');">patspub</a>:</small><br><br>Anyone in Northeast Philly get one of these "DTA's" yet???<br> </div>I have one (in Bucks). ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[patspub posted : Anyone in Northeast Philly get one of these "DTA's" yet???]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[canalking posted : Thank you for your advice. I will let you know what happens after the technician shows up on Sunday. If the technician cannot resolve the problem, then we will look into Fios. Mybe a new service provider will help us out.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ClearToLand posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1644071" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1644071');">canalking</a>:</small><br><br>Having problems with the installation of our dta's. One can only get a few channels, the other one gets none. We have called comcast numerous times to report problem. <b>We even returned orignal dta's to their office and got two new ones. Still cannot receive cable picture...</b><br> </div>Divide and Conquer!<br><ul><li>Go to the point where the cable initially enters your home from the pole. DISCONNECT IT from everything else in your home.<br><li>CONNECT your DTA to your cable at this entry point. You may have to ask Comcast to re-send the 'activate' signal and you may have to wait for the info to download.<br><li>Does either DTA work now?<br><li>If yes, add ONE piece of your existing cabling back, move the DTA to the end of the new piece and TEST again.<br><li>REPEAT until the DTA stops working. You may have a bad cable, a bad splitter, too many splitters, etc...<br><li>If no, wait until the service tech arrives.</ul>Good Luck! :) Let us know what you discover.<br><small>--<br>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/6pxnwa">LM</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ClearToLand posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1457782" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1457782');">bicker</a>:</small><br><br>...It only gets complicated if you choose to add other devices to your set-up, and in that case it is your decision to do so, and your responsibility to either have or obtain the knowledge necessary.  Tech support can help introduce a VCR or DVR into the mix, but only to the extent that you are willing and capable of understanding what they're telling you.  If it sounds too complicated, then you either need to learn more, or call on a friend to help you -- or borrow some friends-in-abstentia by presenting your need on an Internet forum, and let the folks there help you understand how to do what you need to.  That's why many of us are here in this forum. <br><br>It would be great if they did have people standing by at all times to rush out to our homes and hand-hold us through everything.  However, we simply don't pay any mass-market supplier enough for any of them to offer that, in any industry.  And <u>I don't want to pay one penny extra to support that level of service, since I don't need it</u>.  And evidently most customers are like me: They prefer lower prices over lots of extra hand-holding.<br><br>One thing that it is very important you understand about DTAs: They take in the multi-channel cable signal, and put out <b>one</b> channel's audio and video.  Basically, you lose any features that are provide by your VCR, DVR or television by way of <b>it's</b> tuner.  That's not a conspiracy or a crime.  There is a federal regulation that specified precisely how to have cable service and still enjoy such features provided by your VCR's, DVR's or television's tuner -- that federal regulation is satisfied by CableCARD.  If your VCR, DVR or television doesn't support CableCARD, then you have made a decision to not pay the extra amount necessary to comply with <b>your</b> obligations relevant to the federal regulation, so you won't reap the benefits of the features your VCR's, DVR's or television's tuner offers you, such as watch one channel while recording another.  If you have a problem with the law, talk to your Members of Congress.  Until the law is changed, however, cable companies have to comply with it, and you have to do your part as well, in order to gain the benefits of the law.<br> </div>Good explanation <b>bicker</b>.<br><br>I'd like to add the following to hopefullly make the last paragraph even clearer for the 'non-techies'.<br><br><hr><br>Technology continues to evolve. Take music. When I was a child, the adults in my family had collections of 78RPM Mono records. As a teen, 45RPM 'Singles' and 33RPM Stereo 'Albums' took over. Then, 8-Tracks, Cassettes, CDs and finally today 'electronic-only' MP3s. You may have a perfectly operating 8-Track in your car, but, it's tough to buy current songs for it.<br><br>Onto television. In the USA, television has been using NTSC tuners. When I was a child, our console television tuned only VHF 2-13 and was black & white. When UHF 14-83 came along, you needed to buy an 'adapter' for your VHF-only set - same deal as today - tune the new UHF channel on the adapter and then route it to the old television on VHF Ch 3. <br><br>Then came cable. To ease it into our households, the industry came out with 'Cable-Ready' tuners BUILT INTO televisions and VCRs. Maybe the numbers looked the same, but Ch 33 OTA (UHF) was certainly a different frequency than Ch 33 Cable. These 'Cable-Ready' tuners, Ch 2-125, served us a LONG time but now there's DIGITAL and the technology has changed once again.<br><br>Only this time, instead of a 'few' VHF-only sets needing to be either 'adapted' or replaced, there are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of NTSC OTA and 'Cable-Ready' tuners in televisions, VCRs, DVDRs, etc... that (suddenly) have become OBSOLETE! :o Everything that you knew PRIOR to ATSC/QAM is now 'out-dated'. And your choices are the same as they were when UHF first appeared - buy an adapter or replace the device. But, due to the advances in technology, what the adapter can accomplish is limited to what the original device anticipated.<br><br>My knowledge is limited to ReplayTV and TiVo Series 1, so, that's what I'll explain. Both of those devices came with 'IR Blasters' - simply, the OUTPUT portion of the handheld remote control we've all gotten used to. The BUTTONs are handled by electronics inside the ReplayTV and TiVo. Thus, if I upgrade to Digital Cable and get a Motorola DCT-700 STB, I can tell my ReplayTV 'control the DCT-700 for me'. If your existing NTSC-tuner-equipped device didn't anticipate controlling another SPECIFIC device, YOU have to do it manually (tune your old device to NTSC Ch 3; select the ATSC/QAM channel with the DTA/STB remote control). For example, my ReplayTV DOES NOT know how to control the DC-50X (at this time). Very sad indeed. :(<br><br>If that's not satisfactory, well... time to buy a new television, DVDR, etc...  ;)<br><small>--<br>The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/6pxnwa">LM</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[owlyn posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1644071" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1644071');">canalking</a>:</small><br><br>Having problems with the installation of our dta's. One can only get a few channels, the other one gets none. We have called comcast numerous times to report problem. We even returned orignal dta's to their office and got two new ones. Still cannot receive cable picture. Diagnostic review (Thank you for your code info) shows download has failed, and cannot find dsmcc pid whatever that is. We have asked for technician to come to house and they will come in 3 days. In the meantime we have no cable service on these tv's (although we can take the boxes off and have cable service). Dealing with customer service has been horrible. Basically they can only send a signal to the box which does nothing. Can you tell us if you think the problem is with the box, the wiring in the house, or with Comcast's servers/computers? Our cable is working just fine without the boxes. So sorry we ordered these but we have no choice for the older tv's. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Signed, Frustrated. <br> </div>Sounds like a signal problem. The cause could be almost anything, but I would suspect the wiring in your house first.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[canalking posted : Having problems with the installation of our dta's. One can only get a few channels, the other one gets none. We have called comcast numerous times to report problem. We even returned orignal dta's to their office and got two new ones. Still cannot receive cable picture. Diagnostic review (Thank you for your code info) shows download has failed, and cannot find dsmcc pid whatever that is. We have asked for technician to come to house and they will come in 3 days. In the meantime we have no cable service on these tv's (although we can take the boxes off and have cable service). Dealing with customer service has been horrible. Basically they can only send a signal to the box which does nothing. Can you tell us if you think the problem is with the box, the wiring in the house, or with Comcast's servers/computers? Our cable is working just fine without the boxes. So sorry we ordered these but we have no choice for the older tv's. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Signed, Frustrated. ]]></description>
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