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broccoli

join:2007-11-29
Portland, OR

reply to moonpuppy

Re: I seriously wonder about people sometimes.....

said by moonpuppy:

I was reading some of the Android boards and some people just baffled me.

One guy was crying how he wanted a Bit Torrent app for his phone. WTF?!?!?!
What's wrong with that?

Guys, it is a mobile phone, not a full fledged computer.
You don't pay $180 and get locked into a 2-year contract for 'just a phone'.

Some of these people seem to think the bandwidth is limitless almost like their fiber, dsl or cable connections at home. You are sharing cell towers! There will be congestion if you keep the thing streaming with others doing the same thing.
So you are having an issue with potential abuses of the mobile network, and not with a G1 BitTorrent client. You do realize the G1 has a Wi-Fi radio? I don't care if it's BT, WoW, PhotoShop, SPSS, SQL Server or whatever people want to run on their G1s as long as they don't abuse the mobile network.

(As an aside, running a BitTorrent client on a mobile connection would likely result in suboptimal performance, because all connections are firewalled.)

And no, I don't have a G1, and am not planning to get one either. But I use T-Mobile's 3G network daily on a palmtop running XP Pro, using all sorts of apps--video streaming, web browsing, telnet, ftp, VPN, even Skype, but not P2P file sharing. So what's wrong with wanting to run any of these on a smartphone rather than a laptop?

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

said by broccoli:

What's wrong with that?

Bit Torrent is not meant for a cell network.

said by broccoli:

You don't pay $180 and get locked into a 2-year contract for 'just a phone'.

A cheap laptop costs $300 but is not a cell phone. Some Palm units are close to $200 as are some MP3 players.

said by broccoli:

So you are having an issue with potential abuses of the mobile network, and not with a G1 BitTorrent client. You do realize the G1 has a Wi-Fi radio? I don't care if it's BT, WoW, PhotoShop, SPSS, SQL Server or whatever people want to run on their G1s as long as they don't abuse the mobile network.

(As an aside, running a BitTorrent client on a mobile connection would likely result in suboptimal performance, because all connections are firewalled.)
Thanks for proving my point. Most people would try and run Bit Torrent on cell towers and forget about the WiFi.

said by broccoli:

And no, I don't have a G1, and am not planning to get one either. But I use T-Mobile's 3G network daily on a palmtop running XP Pro, using all sorts of apps--video streaming, web browsing, telnet, ftp, VPN, even Skype, but not P2P file sharing. So what's wrong with wanting to run any of these on a smartphone rather than a laptop?
First off, there will be network congestion. No matter how many ways you cut it, unless you have your own tower, network congestion will happen.

Secondly, people are already complaining about the batteries dying in less than 4 hours because they play on their phones all day long. A friend with an iPhone knows not to play on the net all day or he won't have a phone later. Can't be next to a charger all day long.

I do know of a case where someone played COD4 on a Verizon card and was cutoff. The bandwidth won't be there if everyone gets online and starts pulling everything under the sun.

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