Re: Cost of doing business in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21523575 en Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:07:33 EDT Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:07:33 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523575 anon : 15% of MSRP? Isn't iPhone MSRP like $1200 or some crazy price? So 15% is $180.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523575 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:50:31 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523421 BF69 :
said by ninjatutle See Profile :

Someone is always trying to gain a windfall via lawsuit.
or gain a windfall via deceptive marketing. which is worse? Hmmmm.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523421 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:32:39 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523029 KrK :
said by wxboss See Profile :

However small the windfall may be for him if this suit succeeds, I'm sure he only had the best interests of other consumers at heart. :uhh:
He'd be limited to his damages (cost of phone + exit contract) unless it's class action. If it goes class action, the only ones who make windfalls are the lawyers. The consumers get a pittance back if that. (Sometime it's a coupon for a discount or some useless crap.)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523029 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:33:41 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523003 wxboss :
said by KrK See Profile :

If you simply picked it and did no research, well, there's another term that applies: Let the buyer beware.
Great point.

Obviously the iPhone has been around a while (with substantial amounts of reviews, opinions and facts littered around the Net), so there is a certain amount of onus on the part of the consumer to 'do their homework' and filter out any misleading hype. Something I would think a life-seasoned 70 year old would be capable of doing.

However small the windfall may be for him if this suit succeeds, I'm sure he only had the best interests of other consumers at heart. :uhh:
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"A study in the Washington Post says that women have better verbal skills
than men. I just want to say to the authors of that study: Duh."
--Conan O'Brien]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523003 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:29:14 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522808 KrK : Well, the thing with lawsuits works like this. If you've been damaged in some way, you can sue. You may not win, but you can try. When you buy an expensive widget that doesn't perform as expected you have a fairly clear case of damages because of your outlay. Now, to win the case you'd have to show that you were wronged by deceptive/misleading/lying representations of the product. If you simply picked it and did no research, well, there's another term that applies: Let the buyer beware.

Typically such lawsuits are very small and minor and do not create a "windfall" for anyone. There are some exceptions, like product safety lawsuits where serious injury or death occurs because of a defective product.... but then again, without such checks and balances you'd have a lot of unscrupulous vendors selling dangerous goods for massive profit.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522808 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:56:58 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522780 james : Advertisements do affect the general public, or atleast they have the capacity to. It's not like a person is being specifically targeted by the company, so they shouldnt be able to sue as an individual.
But really, aren't there already entities in place that are supposed to enforce truth in advertising?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522780 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:50:01 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522768 KrK :
said by ninjatutle See Profile :

You must be the one who submits all those comsumerist articles here.
You must be one of those Corporate shills that posts everything here defending Corporations left, right and center....
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522768 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:47:12 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522703 ninjatutle : You must be the one who submits all those comsumerist articles here. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522703 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:36:25 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522693 anon :
said by wxboss See Profile :

Doesn't AT&T offer a 30 day trial period on new activations (assuming the plaintiff was a new customer). Either way, there is still a window of opportunity to get another phone or cancel the contract.
Apple passes on to AT&T a 15% restocking fee, even within the 30 day trial; so unless you get a rogue employee (or overly nice one) you'll pay that - the nice ones will take that 15% off your replacement phone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522693 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:35:41 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522602 KrK :
said by ninjatutle See Profile :

Someone is always trying to gain a windfall via lawsuit.
quote:
Someone is always trying to gain a windfall via lawsuit. deceptive marketing, false advertising, bait and switch, and outright lying/blatant misrepresentation of their products.


There. Fixed it for you.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522602 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:21:13 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522555 wxboss :
said by james See Profile :

Companies are always trying to make more money via exaggerating in their ads.
I agree with that.

I do agree that no individual should be able to sue for the actions of a company that affect everyone
This doesn't affect everyone. Consumers have an option to buy product A or product B etc... The plaintiff had an opportunity return a product that didn't meet his expectations.

...the government should be required to step in and investigate, and the money should go into a fund to finance later lawsuits and investigations.
Good Lord, that would be like giving a pimp legal authority to regulate prostitution.
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"A study in the Washington Post says that women have better verbal skills
than men. I just want to say to the authors of that study: Duh."
--Conan O'Brien]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522555 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:14:01 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522171 james : Companies are always trying to make more money via exaggerating in their ads.

I do agree that no individual should be able to sue for the actions of a company that affect everyone, the government should be required to step in and investigate, and the money should go into a fund to finance later lawsuits and investigations.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522171 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:58:02 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522151 ninjatutle : I was watching a segment about Walmart on CNBC a while ago. They said Walmart gets about 30 lawsuits a day. Thats over 1 an hour :hmm: ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522151 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:55:04 EDT Re: Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522030 wxboss : Doesn't AT&T offer a 30 day trial period on new activations (assuming the plaintiff was a new customer). Either way, there is still a window of opportunity to get another phone or cancel the contract.

If it's not working they way you thought it would, just return the damn thing.

I agree with ninjatutle See Profile here.
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"A study in the Washington Post says that women have better verbal skills
than men. I just want to say to the authors of that study: Duh."
--Conan O'Brien]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21522030 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:36:05 EDT Cost of doing business http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521462 ninjatutle : Someone is always trying to gain a windfall via lawsuit. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21521462 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:02:05 EDT