 DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Overkill and overpriced I had Verizon 50Mbps tier and had a hard time finding use for it. Giganews was about the only servers I could find that could serve me at 50Mb, otherwise I still saw a typical 20-30Mb on the high end. |
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| said by Dogfather:I had Verizon 50Mbps tier and had a hard time finding use for it. Giganews was about the only servers I could find that could serve me at 50Mb, otherwise I still saw a typical 20-30Mb on the high end. And believe it or not my 300baud modem used to be more than fast enough...100mb is for the future and bragging rights.. |
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 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | reply to Dogfather
True, the only benefit besides bragging rights I can see to this is transferring files to another Fios customer with the 100 MB service....
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to MrMaestro
Far future. |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Define "far" ...
2 or 3 years ago you would have had a hard time finding a pipe to fill a 15Mbps connection. Now that's extremely easy. So in 5 years I doubt you'll have trouble filling a 100Mbps pipe.
That is all moot however. The problem is (like when multi-core processors were introduced) you're thinking about the uses for a 100Mbps pipe wrong. It's not about a single high-speed download, it's about MULTIPLE high-speed downloads/streams with no little to no delay. |
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DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | 5 years is an eternity in technology. And this is a 'light-switch' upgrade for Verizon. Current fiber deployment would support 100Mb service in shared topology and with GPON which isn't hugely expensive upgrade it is even easier.
Unlike cable, this isn't a 'need to plan for' type problem for Verizon. Their current fiber deployment supports 100Mb in shared topology and with GPON upgrades, which isn't a 'major' investment it is even easier.
And sure, I can think of a future of where we could conceivably use 100Mb service...a couple of 1080P IPTV streams could do it alone. But that kind of offering will be a long time coming, thus 100Mb won't be of any use for a long time coming. |
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 DarkLogixPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | reply to Matt
Hundred shmundred I want gig |
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i hope the other tiers become faster and cheaper as a result of this proposed upgrade. even better for existing customers... |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | reply to N3OGH
said by N3OGH:True, the only benefit besides bragging rights I can see to this is transferring files to another Fios customer with the 100 MB service.... No shit!
What good is having 100mbps when nearly everyone else had 6mbps - slowest link determines actual speed.
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 maartenaElmoPremium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·DIRECTV
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said by Dogfather:I had Verizon 50Mbps tier and had a hard time finding use for it. Giganews was about the only servers I could find that could serve me at 50Mb, otherwise I still saw a typical 20-30Mb on the high end. Those kind of speeds are more useful when you have a family with teenagers, that are ALL on the computer at the same time youtubing, playing online games, webcamming with bff-whomever, using vonage to chat, watching the latest sport highlights, AND downloading from usenet, torrents, etc....
Most people don't see beyond what speeds could do with one computer and one person operating.
It's just me and my wife, but I am happy to have 15/2, because we are both internet junkies.  |
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maartenaElmoPremium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1 Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
·DIRECTV
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In Japan, China (Hong Kong), Singapore and Korea they have been offering 100 Mbps for years now.
In Europe, 24 Mbps cable and DSL2 connections are very common, and they too are now deploying both fiber and DOCSIS 3.0 to the masses, with 100 Mbps or almost similar speeds.
We all know that the U.S. is majorly lagging behind on providing speedy internet at a good price to it's citizens, but I would not really call it "far future".
Hell, I made remarks 5 years ago that we wouldn't see 10 Mbps connections going into houses before 2010. With my 15/2 connection now, uVerse going with 12 and 18 Mbps, I am happy to admit I was dead wrong.
We'll see 100 Mbps going into houses sooner then you think. And in many cities. I would actually be willing to make another prediction that says that 100 Mbps will be available in some sort to all major metroplitan areas by 2012, which from my perspective being 34 is not the FAR future....  |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather:And sure, I can think of a future of where we could conceivably use 100Mb service...a couple of 1080P IPTV streams could do it alone. But that kind of offering will be a long time coming, thus 100Mb won't be of any use for a long time coming. I'm not sure what relevance the rest of your post had so I'll address the issue I thought we were originally discussing.
If there weren't any use for it, I doubt they'd be offering it. I could think of several uses for it right now outside of IPTV streaming but again, you're still thinking one-dimensionally. With 100Mbps, you can start doing all kinds of things, like video conferencing, sharing videos real-time to OTHER friends XBox/Wii/PS3 consoles, video streaming to your home (as you mentioned) ... there are a multitude of things that 100Mbps opens up.
The most important aspect is the application we CAN'T think of. Just like when broadband was introduced and people wondered (and some still do) why anyone needed more than 1.5Mbps, 100Mbps opens the door to a lot of interactivity you simply can't do now.
And server bandwidth is cheap so capacity will catch up with home connections very quickly. We get 100GB of premium bandwidth from our datacenter on a 100Mbps port for a little less than a dollar a GB. That price will not do anything but go down. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FiOS
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said by Dogfather:I had Verizon 50Mbps tier and had a hard time finding use for it. Giganews was about the only servers I could find that could serve me at 50Mb, otherwise I still saw a typical 20-30Mb on the high end. I max out my 50mbs FIOS connection on a regular basis. I'm hoping they have a free speed upgrade to 60mbs or 70mbs now that Comcast is offering 50mbs service.
I pay $90 a month for my 50/20 tier which is an excellent price for that speed. But even 50mbs seems slow after awhile. I want to go faster! |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
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said by N3OGH:True, the only benefit besides bragging rights I can see to this is transferring files to another Fios customer with the 100 MB service.... I use my 50mbs connection to it's full potential almost everyday. the faster the better. I have no problem using all 50mbs. i could easily max a faster speed too. Not sure about 100mbs though. |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
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said by maartena:said by Dogfather:I had Verizon 50Mbps tier and had a hard time finding use for it. Giganews was about the only servers I could find that could serve me at 50Mb, otherwise I still saw a typical 20-30Mb on the high end. Those kind of speeds are more useful when you have a family with teenagers, that are ALL on the computer at the same time youtubing, playing online games, webcamming with bff-whomever, using vonage to chat, watching the latest sport highlights, AND downloading from usenet, torrents, etc.... Most people don't see beyond what speeds could do with one computer and one person operating. It's just me and my wife, but I am happy to have 15/2, because we are both internet junkies. It's just me but I have 40 devices connecting to the internet on a regular basis. |
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N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | reply to keshavrs
Well, I'm patiently waiting. My street is on the construction list this month, and the build out in my CO is in it's final stages....
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to Dogfather
Not really, it's not just a "light switch" upgrade for Verizon. It gets to a point where it goes deeper into the house system as well with equipment, etc.
Not all of that pipe to your home is for internet.. The MOST common mistake around BBR by the "experts" is that the speed equals "internet use".. far from it.
This same service also carries Television, wide area networking to other incumbent services, better phone handling, improved network update pushes, etc. A lot of last mile only services would benefit.
I hate to burst your bubble, but 100MB can surely be useful in the near future for sure! |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix:Hundred shmundred I want gig For what? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
 ·Comcast
| I'd be fine with 100 Mbps. 802.11n can't even deliver 100 Mbps reliably, everything would have to be hardwired gigabit to take advantage of those speeds. At that point, where WAN speeds approach realistic LAN speeds, Verizon can stop upgrading...for now... |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to fiberguy
My 20 drive Fiber Channel SAN for my megalo-torrent box. |
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