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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to RayW

Re: Theft

said by RayW:

The Gov knows what you are doing.....A lot of people think that what you do is private business and not the Gov's, talk on the phone, buy something, sell something, no one else needs to know.

Yet all of the above can be done for nefarious reasons, do you violate privacy for them or do you lock down privacy for the honest and ignore the bad?
O.k. the loss of privacy has been gone for several decades now. Your phone records, your financial statements, your day to day life is available with the click of a mouse and it is not always the government doing it. Living "off the grid" is very close to impossible. You have a house, the government and private business knows about it. You have a job, they know what you make. Get the picture?

Because a few bad apples (scrappers and scrap yard owners both), we now need a way to track where all this stolen copper is going.

Once you do business with someone who does have to report to the government, you lose that privacy.

RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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said by moonpuppy:

O.k. the loss of privacy has been gone for several decades now. Your phone records, your financial statements, your day to day life is available with the click of a mouse and it is not always the government doing it. Living "off the grid" is very close to impossible. You have a house, the government and private business knows about it. You have a job, they know what you make. Get the picture?

Because a few bad apples (scrappers and scrap yard owners both), we now need a way to track where all this stolen copper is going.

Once you do business with someone who does have to report to the government, you lose that privacy.
Yup, and all the folks can sue away saying "rights violations", but you basically have stated what drives it all, a few bad apples. Unfortunately, it is a fine line between "get security, give up freedom", and as I found out years ago, those who value freedom are vulnerable to those who exploit it, especially when laws are passed prohibiting you from taking actions by well meaning, but clueless, hot house flowers.

Oh well, have a good day, it is sunny and hit 46 today (snow forecast for Monday if you believe the weather guesser).
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