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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child
said by TKJunkMail  :It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks. Personal attacks are just that. They're not the same thing as ad hominem arguments.
Ad hominem remarks are attacks that are made in lieu of legitimate arguments. They're a form of distraction from the real issue.
In this case, you're being taken apart both by legitimate, logical responses and being made fun of. |
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| said by n0ym :said by TKJunkMail :It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks. Personal attacks are just that. They're not the same thing as ad hominem arguments. Ad hominem remarks are attacks that are made in lieu of legitimate arguments. They're a form of distraction from the real issue. In this case, you're being taken apart both by legitimate, logical responses and being made fun of. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_a···_abusive
Ad hominem abusive
Ad hominem abusive (also called argumentum ad personam) usually and most notoriously involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensibly damning character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.
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said by TKJunkMail :But that is the excuse used by all child pornography purveyors - that it is art and should be ok. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well |
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said by TKJunkMail :said by n0ym :said by TKJunkMail :It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks. Personal attacks are just that. They're not the same thing as ad hominem arguments. Ad hominem remarks are attacks that are made in lieu of legitimate arguments. They're a form of distraction from the real issue. In this case, you're being taken apart both by legitimate, logical responses and being made fun of. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_a···_abusiveAd hominem abusive
Ad hominem abusive (also called argumentum ad personam) usually and most notoriously involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensibly damning character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions. Ad hominem as a logical fallacy is when an attack is made in lieu of an argument. However, using an ad-hominem attack after, or in the midst of an argument does not automatically nullify the content within the argument, and does not constitute a logical fallacy, though it may be bad form in a debate. |
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said by TKJunkMail :It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks. said by TKJunkMail :So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?
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join:2000-03-02 | Yes, weird how that works. You're a purveyor of child porn for disagreeing with me -- but I'm very, very upset when people engage in personal attacks. |
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