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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Wikipedia should just delete the album cover from the article if indeed it is a naked child portrayed sexually, which would be against all international laws on child pornography. Delete the pic and the problem goes away.
I think this one falls under the "art" protection. Even if the art was used to create controversy.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Wikipedia should just delete the album cover from the article if indeed it is a naked child portrayed sexually, which would be against all international laws on child pornography. Delete the pic and the problem goes away.
I think this one falls under the "art" protection. Even if the art was used to create controversy.

But that is the excuse used by all child pornography purveyors - that it is art and should be ok.
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But that is the excuse of all closet fascists, that art which bothers their delicate sensibilities should be banned or thrown in a pile and burned.

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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

But that is the excuse of all closet fascists, that art which bothers their delicate sensibilities should be banned or thrown in a pile and burned.
So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?

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Yeah TK. AND the murder of puppies.

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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?
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Yeah TK. AND the murder of puppies.
well, in that warped neo-con logic, you are either with him (and the *good* side), or with the terrorists (or whichever group is *not* the good side).

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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

But that is the excuse of all closet fascists, that art which bothers their delicate sensibilities should be banned or thrown in a pile and burned.
So you defend child pornography?
Yeah. Child pornography is awesome.

Socialism is great too. Free socialist CP for all!

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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

did you say CP?


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

But that is the excuse of all closet fascists, that art which bothers their delicate sensibilities should be banned or thrown in a pile and burned.
So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?
Stupid question, even by your standards
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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

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Stupid question, even by your standards
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well, in that warped neo-con logic
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem_attack


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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

You're the person who accused someone of defending child pornography, when they clearly weren't, scumbag.
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scumbag.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem_attack

You are in a loop. Press reset.

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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

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scumbag.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem_attack

You are in a loop. Press reset.
No, just making sure you know what others think of you when you make such ridiculous accusations
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by markwp2001 See Profile :

scumbag.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem_attack

You are in a loop. Press reset.
You really don't get the "ad hominem" thing, do you?

Kinda makes it easy to understand why your ideas about art and pornography are so simplistic, though.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Wikipedia should just delete the album cover from the article if indeed it is a naked child portrayed sexually, which would be against all international laws on child pornography. Delete the pic and the problem goes away.
For someone who hasn't seen the image in question, you sure run your mouth.

Naked - yes.
Sexual? Maybe in your mind.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?
Nudity is not always pornography, and not all pornography involves nudity.

By your reasoning, any pictures of you as a child where you happen to be nude should be destroyed, as they are "child pornography" even if there is nothing sexual going on in the picture.

Face it, you conservatives are the ones with "sick" minds. You assign all this sexuality to things that have none.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?
Tell me TK, do you support child pornography? No? Then why do you support the blocking of child porn websites rather than having them shut down/used to catch pedophiles?

Logically you must be a pedophile because you're protecting them by hiding them from the public but not shutting them down.

Oh no! Ad-hominem attack'd! Hey, don't get mad at me, you started it!

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

]But that is the excuse used by all child pornography purveyors - that it is art and should be ok.
No. Porn is porn. If you look at the cover, yes, it's controversial, and yes, some will find it offensive, but it's definitely art, and not porn.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

But that is the excuse used by all child pornography purveyors - that it is art and should be ok.
I don't find the image at all pornographic -- that is, it does not appeal at all to my prurient interest. How come it does to yours, I wonder???

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[ How come it does to yours, I wonder???
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem_attack
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[ How come it does to yours, I wonder???
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem_attack
Wow, someone just discovered logical fallacies, and is shoe-horning everything into one. Congrats.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

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[ How come it does to yours, I wonder???
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem_attack
Wow, someone just discovered logical fallacies, and is shoe-horning everything into one. Congrats.
It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks.
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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?
it wouldn't have been necessary if you hadn't used a logical fallacy to characterize karl and what he was trying to say.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

yes, believe it or not, i passed freshman english too

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks.
Personal attacks are just that. They're not the same thing as ad hominem arguments.

Ad hominem remarks are attacks that are made in lieu of legitimate arguments. They're a form of distraction from the real issue.

In this case, you're being taken apart both by legitimate, logical responses and being made fun of.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks.
Personal attacks are just that. They're not the same thing as ad hominem arguments.

Ad hominem remarks are attacks that are made in lieu of legitimate arguments. They're a form of distraction from the real issue.

In this case, you're being taken apart both by legitimate, logical responses and being made fun of.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_a···_abusive
Ad hominem abusive

Ad hominem abusive (also called argumentum ad personam) usually and most notoriously involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensibly damning character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.

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Re: Action justified if naked person on album cover is a child

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said by n0ym See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks.
Personal attacks are just that. They're not the same thing as ad hominem arguments.

Ad hominem remarks are attacks that are made in lieu of legitimate arguments. They're a form of distraction from the real issue.

In this case, you're being taken apart both by legitimate, logical responses and being made fun of.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_a···_abusive
Ad hominem abusive

Ad hominem abusive (also called argumentum ad personam) usually and most notoriously involves insulting or belittling one's opponent, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensibly damning character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.
Ad hominem as a logical fallacy is when an attack is made in lieu of an argument. However, using an ad-hominem attack after, or in the midst of an argument does not automatically nullify the content within the argument, and does not constitute a logical fallacy, though it may be bad form in a debate.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

It wouldn't be necessary if the default 1st choice of response of many posters wasn't personal attacks.
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So you defend child pornography - as long as it hides under the cover of being art?

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Yes, weird how that works. You're a purveyor of child porn for disagreeing with me -- but I'm very, very upset when people engage in personal attacks.

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But that is the excuse used by all child pornography purveyors - that it is art and should be ok.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well
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